[steveo22]

Do you have you staff working for you on a self employed basis?

Does it keep things easier this way?

[edward1]

strickly speaking if they work for you 100% of the time you have to employ them .
however if they use their own equipment then you can go the self employed route.

so if you do go down the self employed route and they don't pay the tax you may find that you have to .

I did know a guy (a )who used to hire his van to a wc .that wc would  then  be billed for the van and would in turn  bill guy (a) for work done .
all that to save employing.

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

I employ on a self-employed basis, it couldn't be simpler surely?

I spoke to the tax office about it, as the guy who works for me has always worked for himself, has his own round but comes onboard for a few days a month. He bills me, its a direct expense to the business and is tax deductable.

[Jon Hutchings]

Hi, best to keep them on self employed but make sure they provide there self employment number which they will have been given when they registered.always get an invoice from them for work done so you can prove you  have paid them or you may be liable at year end for the tax due.Hope this has been of some help

[robertphil]

trouble is that the average Joe or Josephine isnt organized enough to do their own tax return , in which case  you will get the flack from HMRC  when the sh/t hits the fan if they dont do it 

 its not as hairy as it might seem to employ on the books . Though it takes a leap of faith to do it,i have found no big headaches and plenty of advantages.

it helps if you are at a stage of life where youve already seen your share of Real life problems,so that employing is a minor issue that you take in your stride so to speak.

[Smudger]

we have done/do both

not much difference between to 2 really regards time and paperwork

Darran

[dave0123]

I employ on a self-employed basis, it couldn't be simpler surely?

I spoke to the tax office about it, as the guy who works for me has always worked for himself, has his own round but comes onboard for a few days a month. He bills me, its a direct expense to the business and is tax deductable.

Thats fine because he has his own work basically its just like your subcontracting to him.


But for the other people who are having lads working with them everyday and using your equipment and they dont work for anyone else or do there own work... this is technically not allowed... id be careful doing that.

[Neil Jones]

I'm pretty sure if the person carries out a certain percentage of work for you and you tell them where to go, provide equipment, and what to do etc then self employed route is wrong and they must be employed. The only think I don't like about employing people is dealing with PAYE and HMRC, it's a pain and the latter are useless and providing revelant info.
Saying that though, the large cleaning companies like Maid to Clean and Kingsmaid all have people working for them on a self employed basis, it's bizzare.

[ronnie paton]

EMPLOYING- is a mine field you get the wrong person then well you could see claim coming in and even if every angle is covered.

self employed all day for make sure they sign a agreemnent clearly stating they understand they are responsible for tax and insurance