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gary999

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Re: Without a van
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2013, 05:39:02 pm »
i like john hewitts ws backpacks nice and cheap and spares
are always available if needed and dirt cheap aswell.

like all backpacks they can have their issues the on/off switches are crap
so i wire a through switch to the top of the pack.

for the money you pay they are a real bargain.

best thing to do is ring john hewitts and talk to him,he is
spot on and wont sell you anything you dont need.

gardiners backpack looks decent i havent used one myself
but havent heard any complaints and they are another company easy to deal with

johnny bravo

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Re: Without a van
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2013, 07:23:23 pm »
ste,  if you are sure i would produce pure water first,  once you have mastered this you will have no problems, this is a must.  get this sorted first. ro,  di.  booster pumps ,resins, tubing, drumms for water storage. tds meters.   then the main object CUSTOMERS.    everyone is trying to find extra work now. well almost everyone.

lee_dewing

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Re: Without a van
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2013, 08:47:28 pm »
Hi  Steve, I started out with freedom trolley great reliable.
Cons: £700, everything is squashed in and not quick to access things to replace.

Have used a back pack also window cleaning warehouse type 1 cheap but a bit cheap and cheerful
not used gardiners back pack but have heard goo things.

If your working out of the boot of a car then i'd go backpack if you do want a trolley then i'd say freedom trolley probably the best around.

Pole wise CLX-27 hybrid (glass fibre and carbon mix; cheapish pole but pretty decent)
I have CLX-22 and i wish i had bought 27 as can't reach all my work.
Yes the SLX will be better (i don't have) but as a newbie master the clx 1st before you spend all your  hard earned cash.

I started out with freedom trolley starter pack (trolley, 1 barrel, 22 foot glass fibre pole and 200 gallon per day ro unit)

As mentioned by others unless 30 tds (soft water) you will need ro unit to process (make pure water)
Don't buy anything less than 200 gpd ro unit (this make 800 litres of pure water in 24 hours)
In reality 650-700 litres.

I have 625 litre, I.B.C static tank in my parents garage (i live in flat)
I average 200 litres a day usage, i clean everything wfp except doorways.

I use less water than many on here using fan jets, gonna swap to 1mm pencil jets (jets are where water comes through brush)

Also a must have is aqua-dapter, you will be limited using a car in how much water you can carry so aqua-dapter will save you 25% on water combined with fan or 1mm jets i think you can save 35% on water.
http://www.aqua-dapter.co.uk/

Many on here use 400 litres a day you could cut that to 260 litres (35% of 400=(140 litres saved)

Also if you had to Steve you can do smaller downstairs windows by hand.

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Gardiner-Pure-Water-Trolleys-Backpack.html

CLX-27 pole
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/clx-slx-super-max-telescopic-poles.html

http://www.ro-man.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=22_93&product_id=100

Alex Gardiner is a great guy and well worth speaking to.

I myself have ford escort van use 8x25 ltr barrels average, have 100 metre 6mm micro bore hose on one of gardiners reels
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/premium-lightweight-metal-freestanding-microbore-hose-reel-cart.html

Also now use pump box cheapest i've found
http://www.daqua.co.uk/pumps_controllers.htm


Hope some of this helps Steve, trouble is one question leads to another and another ;D

One of the biggest problem you will have is weight of water in car 1litre=1 kilo soon mounts up.
Hence why i keep water usage as low as i can.

Good luck Steve, we were all newbies once :D
Just keep researching, posting ;)
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Steven Butler

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Re: Without a van
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2013, 09:43:35 pm »
Thanks everyone, really appreciate ur advise.
Lee how much do you think I can get a back pack set up for, inc all bits required? Email me if u like supreme_clean@btinternet.com
My cars a vauxhall zafira and to be honest has a massive space with the back seats down.

lee_dewing

  • Posts: 3124
Re: Without a van
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2013, 12:52:07 am »
Hi  Steve, can't see that link, sorry.

To answer your next question i reckon £1000.

To get back pack, pole mentioned, you need brush, barrels say 8-10

ibc tank i have 625 litre think i paid £125 but you can get a few rain butts.

Ro-man system mentioned, oh submersible pump to fit in static tank to pump pure water out into barrels.

resin, connectors, spares, scrims 5-10 or micro fibres, applicators, squeegee, pouch, bucket on belt, scraper, ladder to get over gates, ladder stay.

Some might say you can set up with £600 and maybe you can but i've used cheap poles, tried taps on hose to shut off water etc.

I've wasted alot of money on crap gear over the years.

I would email alex gardiner Steve, alex@agardiner.co.uk

I think back pack wise Gardiners are one of the best they also do a trolley doesn't have a digital controller to my knowledge though.

You could do what i do steve and get a pump box and hose reel.
But the weight could cripple your car :'(
As said email the resident expert.
I'l look out for your posts Steve.

I'm off to bed.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle