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Timmy Boy

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Truckmount transplant
« on: September 29, 2012, 03:46:05 pm »
Good afternoon all
Well, my fiat Ducato finally blew up and have decided enough is enough (3rd engine). The van was 6 years old (as is the apex in it). The truckmount is in good general order and i am getting it re powder coated so it looks great when i put it in the new van. I learnt a valuable lesson in buying a cheaper van, the Ducato was looking very tired after a few years use so have gone with a VW Crafter this time.Great van and I am chuffed to bits with it, this time though I have the opportunity to get the van right prior to installation. The new vw is not brand new so is already ply lined. I plan to peel this back, stuff with insulation and then refit plus will be adding some insulation and ply to the roof. I was thinking of using Ali checker plate on the floor as the last one went rotten but wondered if it was practical, I was also thinking about spray lining. There has been a difference of opinion on here re heating- some say good insulation  and a little heater will keep everything in order over the winter months. But some say belt and braces - webasto and insulation. Also thinking about painting the ply, how does this hold up with the daily grind (undercoat and gloss?)
Also wanted to put the wand and SX12 up on brackets, I know Chemspec used to sell something but not sure if they still do?
Look forward to comments or feedback on your experience or suggestions.
Thanks
Tim

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2012, 04:09:50 pm »
Checher plate could be heavy when I do mine I'll insulate and ply line including roof  but coat the flooring and may be 18 inches of wall with protectacote I still would put some kind of heater in the van for the frosty nights why take the chance.

Shaun

Timmy Boy

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Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2012, 04:18:47 pm »
Hi Shaun
I noticed that jim Neal used protectacote, where can I get it from,is it applied with a roller?

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 04:57:55 pm »

Jim_77

Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2012, 11:19:19 pm »
Hi Tim, bad luck with the van mate, sounds like a proper nightmare :-\

Yes I have done mine with protectakote, floor and sides up to wheel arch boxing height.  It is just about 3 years old now.  I've re-coated the floor once in that time just as maintenance, hadn't worn off or anything, and it has held up very well indeed.  Non-slip too when damp.  Pleased with the way it has lasted.  Absolute COW of a substance to work with though, get it on your skin and you have to wait for your skin to shed, it doesn't come off!!  One other thing - Xylene is the thinning/cleaning solvent to use with this stuff.  Xylene is carcinogenic so use long rubber gloves, respirator and don't get it on your skin.  Cancer isn't fun.

I painted the rest of my ply exactly as you said - undercoat and gloss, one coat of each.  Keeps it all nice and tidy, being a wipe-clean surface.  The other thing is with white paint all inside the van it is VERY light in there, you're not fumbling round in the dark.  I did what you plan to do as well, pull back the ply and stuff it with fibreglass loft insulation.  Works an absolute charm, needs very minimal heating in winter.  I extended the ply right up to the top of the side panels and across the roof too, as well as doing all the doors.  It's like a giant cool box :)

Get a couple of those packs of different types of storage hooks, wickes or B&Q sell them.  You have to mess around a bit and play with them to get it right but it's time well spent.

If you want me to send you some photos of the way I've mounted wands etc let me know your email address ;)

Unless you can't get an electric lead to your van overnight I would forget the webasto/eberspacher idea.  Why make another problem for yourself with condensation and a flat van battery every morning?  Also there's the noise to consider.

I would also say that the checkerplate is not a good idea.  No insu;lation properties, will be slippy when wet and damned heavy!

richie

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Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2012, 11:32:27 pm »
If fitting insulation behind the ply lining id say buy the 100mm thick insulation.  Any thicker and you will flatten it far to much and that will stop the insulation from working as effective.

Jim_77

Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 12:04:22 am »
Good advice Richie - you tend to end up with two cavity depths... roof and part of side panels won't be very deep, but doors will be double the cavity thickness.  I used 75mm on mine and it is plenty for the thinner bits and doubled up works great in the bits like the doors. 100 probably too thick?

Timmy Boy

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Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 02:15:35 pm »
Thanks for the tips, Jim, did you go up the sides a bit, a photo or too would be great. My email is tim@mcsclean.co.uk , in the fiat I had my reel over the left arch, then by the time I had fitted my water tank on the other I had very little room for anything else so all my bits and bobs had to go down the middle (including Chems wand etc.) although the VW is also a MWB the size difference is massive!

richie

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Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 06:43:00 pm »
Yes Jim, you may struggle with 100mm. I only said 100mm because not many places supply the 75mm. It is possible to split the insulation to make it thinner but that can be a bit messy. 

Timmy Boy

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Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 07:25:06 pm »
just also been looking at white polypropylene as an alternative to ply. Has anyone had experience of this?

Jim_77

Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2012, 01:39:14 am »
I'll email you a few pics of when mine was all shiny and new ;D

r.e. the polypropylene sheets - is it a rough matte finish of shiny?  If shiny I reckon it may scratch and scuff, and up looking pants?  Also bet it costs way more than ply.  Other thing, what about fixing things to it?

Jim_77

Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2012, 01:42:21 am »
Yes Richie... Itchy n Scratchy!!  Not to mention prickly snot for the next 3 days!

richie

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Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2012, 01:54:32 am »
LOL Jim, as i used to be a loft insulator i know all about the itchy & prickly snot :)

Jim_77

Re: Truckmount transplant
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2012, 12:25:33 pm »
Now there's a job you could never pay me enough money to do!  Used to work in the building trade and always seemed to draw the short straw whenever there was fibreglass to be handled/installed :-\