[S.W. Window Cleaning]

Hi,
  Was looking at a new type Citroen Berlingo 1.6 HDi van. Its 625kg. Not sure if its big enough for a 350 litre tank and poles. Anybody else using one or is there something better. Don`t want too big a van.
  Cheers,
     Steve

[PurefectWindowCleaning]

Im looking at these also, to replace my 51 plate Berlingo. They look awesome 

[Panorama]

You might be on the verge of your weight limit , I would look at a scudo which has a higher payload

[sham33]

The new shapes come in 850kg as well. I have a 400 litre tank in a 800kg Berlingo no problem at all.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

The new shapes come in 850kg as well. I have a 400 litre tank in a 800kg Berlingo no problem at all.

That's right, you can get payloads up to 850KG with the new Berlingos. However, most second hand or new ones on "special offer" tend to be the 625 version!

[Spruce]

What about the same van but with an 850kg payload. (Sorry - the previous posters got there before me.)

One thing you may find of interest is that the drivers weight is included in the van's payload figures. With the previous Berlingo the driver's weight allowance was 75kgs.
So if you chose to go for the 625kg model, the only thing you would have to consider is the weight of the amount of fuel you are carrying as well as all your equipment.
So a 350l (single baffeled) tank will hold about 325kg of water when full, the weight of the tank, hosereel, pole, ladders, odd and ends and fuel and your weight above 75kgs (if this applies) would mean you would be ok weight wise.

The reason why I would consider a higher payload is we find that on occassion a single operator can use anything between 250 - 450 litres per day. So both single operator vans have 500 litre tanks fitted (800LX Partner and 825kg Tansit Connect LWB).

[Spruce]

The new shapes come in 850kg as well. I have a 400 litre tank in a 800kg Berlingo no problem at all.

That's right, you can get payloads up to 850KG with the new Berlingos. However, most second hand or new ones on "special offer" tend to be the 625 version!

We are talking Citroen here.

Unfortunately dealers were required to commit to ordering stock from the factory up to 3 months in advance. Other dealers could then draw from your stock whilst they waited at depot to be called off by your dealership. If no other dealer requested your stock after a certain length of time, your orders were invoiced and shipped to you.
So dealers only ordered the basic most popular spec just incase they got landed with a whole lot of stock.

However, a few years back the special deals where identical on both the 600 & 800 models and lasted about 3 months. So find out what the deal is at the very beginning of the quarter and order a factory model to come within that quarter. Also dealers have a stock holding inventory of all the other dealers in the area using the same storage depot, so they will be able to source your requirements somewhere if they aren't lazy. The only time you may not get something is if you want a colour, as every dealer will order the most popular colour - white.

The other way of holding stock until the last minute at the depot for a potential order was to draw up fake orders against each of them. So a dealer may not be able to find a particular model and say they have checked other dealers stock. But don't be deterred - phone all the commercial dealers within a 50 mile radius and see what they can get - and don't forget to play one up against another price wise.  

The only time the factory got involved with extra special pricing was a preregistered effort to gain market share at the end of a reporting year or number plate change.

Ford will usually come out with some good pre-registered delivery mileage only deals in October of each year. Citroen were more flexible but again usually at a plate change and would be what they were overstocked with ie 625kg models.

Spruce

[Londoner]

When I bought my P Partner (same as Berlingo just name is different) I was able to specify exactly what I wanted and I was very specific. I wanted silver paint, N/S sliding door, aircon etc and I got it in 6 weeks and £3800 off what it should have cost!

I found them very good, unbelievable in fact. Fiat was equally willing to do deals. you need to talk to them and ask what they can do. I get the impression they are more willing to do deals on special orders although you have to wait for them to come in.

But then I had to wait months for my Aston.

[sham33]

I need to get another van in September do you think a 850kg Berlingo could hold a 500 litre tank comfortably?

[Spruce]

I need to get another van in September do you think a 850kg Berlingo could hold a 500 litre tank comfortably?

Depends what else you have. My son has an 800LX partner. 500 litre tank holds 485 kgs of water brimmed + 30kgs for his tank and frame. Add another 15kgs for his ladder, 18kgs for his backpack and 25kgs for his hosereel. Add 10 kgs for his leisure battery and pump and a couple of kgs for his poles will mean a payload of about 585 kgs. Add 10kgs for his extra weight (PSA allowed a driver with a weight of 75kgs to be included with payload) and a full tank of fuel of 60 kgs and that's about the max - 700kgs.

Spruce

[tompoole]

I looked at berlingo and settled on a price of £8600 plus vat
For a brand new one, but after driving and working out where
Gear would go I decided it was too small and went and. Ought
An 09 dispatch 1.6 . Does the job and cab way bigger   And every
Thing fits neater   Poles fit inside ladders don't stick out front
And back , only down side is its way slower, but it's a van so
Don't care to much.

[weetot]

Got a 250l in my Berlingo and theres still loads of room!

[AuRavelling79]

New Doblo lets you have a 750 or a 1000kg payload

My 56 plate one has a 730kg payload.