[Crystal-clear]

so next year im thinking about sorting my business out ive been off the pedal for a while.

ive lost my trust worthy subbie (he went his own way) im cleaning my whole round alone now , im late pretty much on quite a bit but i am catching up, to be honest while i had him i was doing easyer days finishing early and had time off now im working late and starting early bit of a wake up call for me today wanted to go home at 1.30 as its friday glanced at my round and forced my self to stay out till 5pm as im behind..

i feel i could use a bit of advice in this matter
im thinking about really going down the employing ruote a subby is good but as he owns his own van tools etc etc 1 day they could leave and just do there own thing which happened to me im happy for him he never let me down but at the same time now i need to figure out what to do

so im thinking to buy a 2nd van employ a window cleaner and put him on anual wage which ever is the going rate was thinking about £15k paye?+ 6 monthly bonous of some sort.is the 15k too much some have said min wage + bonous anyway this way i will own all the equipment and be offering a reasonable package so the idea is that i have a long term employee who is dedicated

a few questions that spring to mind.
0 hour i would prefer this as it doesnt tie me down to anything right?
what should i be worried about ie workers rights etc etc ?
is the monster jobsite the better place i tryed directgov once wasnt impressed with them
can i sack them if they become bad, hasnt a new law passed where you can does that matter on 0 hours?

should i get someone who doesnt really know the business and train them up myself rather then someone who has done it before or did it himself
as the ones with expirience could end up doing there own thing im after longevity need a loyal person,who will last work hard and also canvass when needed
those of you who have trianed people up how have you found them in the longer run compared to expirienced people?i know you cant keep people forever
but if i get 3 years good work out of someone ill be happy.

finally what i dont want to do is give myself more headache i guess i need to know the reality of what i might be doing going down the employing ruote with paye
and being 100% responsible for another person,? whats it been like for you managing and growing in size i find my self kinda at a cross roads, do i just have a relaxed life .or move forward . i always had this vision to expand and employ but i think the customers totally wore me down (establishing wise) and was quite happy where i was.

sorry if ive gone a bit of track, so  so yer if you have thought about have or used to employ on "PAYE" committed to giving him hours not cash in hand or invoicved workers i want to do this properly so would love to hear from you from finding expirienced/non expirienced workers/ drawing up contracts. can you fire them? 0 hours , maybe you did all this rigmarole and after a weeks work they have let you down and you went back to working alnoe? 
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"sorry its long"

[Klearview]

Hi Crystal, where abouts are you based? I'm sure I saw a crystal clear van last week.

[Crystal-clear]

South, like Surrey van is unmarked at the mo mate loads of crystals kicking about

[Klearview]

Oh I see fair enough! Shame really I was interested if it was more Bedfordshire way.

[Ian101]

Hi Crystal too long to post but if u want to call I can tell you my positive experiances but don't employ friends or family rule number 1 ... O754 006 5555 after 3pm any day

[Crystal-clear]

Thanks Ian, yea that's a deffo my friend was bugging me for a job I told him Straight that we would end up falling out !

[Joe Shanahan]

Hello mate have you thought about renting work out if your too busy?  Im not too far away from you email me joeshanahan@ymail.com see if we can work something out?

[Crystal-clear]

yes i did but i dont want to end up in the same situation as i am now,paying a subbie costs a fair bit which is fine as tools are supplied but for now im gona give ian a ring next week see what i may be letting my self into from his experiences and see where i go from there, thanks for the offer ill add your email to my list of contacts i know its the easy option for sure and i am tempted ,but want to think this one through

[robertphil]

my two pennysworth - i now dont employ anybod with a driving licence cos theyll be tempted to go on their own and perhaps even poach your work.    i employ parttimers only as you can let one go easily if theyre no good and the others will take up the slack till you find a newbie
  iv 3 parttimers (youngsters,college types) and next year i will employ a parttime driver (somebod aged 60+ to ferry the workers about) , he/she wont be physically capable of cleaning so wont be a threat to the business
  make sure any new worker knows its a 2 or 3 month trial period at the start , thats long enough that a lazy type will start showing up late ,black moods etc