[Mark Betts]

Alex

Use whatever chemical you are A; Comfortable with. and B: Can get hold of easily.

There are that many different chemicals around these days its confusing.

When i started i jumped from this chemical to that chemical etc etc  and to be honest I couldnt see much of a difference between any on them.

At the end of the day the aim is to get the carpets as clean as possible.

I use Ultimate Master exclusively.

The only thing i change is my pre spray.

Domestics.

Medium soiling pre spray from machine with ultimate master.

Heavy soiling Use wools safe pre spray or heavy duty if minging and carpet lknackered anyway.

Domestics Upholstery.

Allrtec Fabric Pre wash and rinse with U/M in tank.

If dodgy fabric as above but with Acid Rinse.

Commercial

Pre spray Enzyme.

Ectract off with Ultimate master.

Regards


Mark

[Lionel]

Len

    Steve Carpenter forget to mention that he use to work for Chemspec and now works for One Step. Dont believe the hype.

[Derek]

Hi Lionel

Steve also runs his own cleaning business near to me... you could say we are competitors... I always let his van tyres down whenever I pass it in my area

Only kidding....I have known Steve, his brother David who also runs a carpet cleaning company in the Milton Keynes area also his father for years.

Steve has a vast wealth of experience at his disposal and his promotion of One-Step and CFR is based on his  own experiences within the industry.
After all..aren't we are all talking about (and indirectly promoting) our favourite chemicals and machinery from whichever source all the time.

There are quite a few of us who post here who are concerned about using safe chemicals...safe for the item we are cleaning, safe for the customer and safe for us to use... and rightly so

These issues have not always been in the spotlight as much as they are these days

Regards
Derek

[carpetmonsters]

hi lionel

i first tried one step many years ago but it did not work.
some time later steve carpenter gave me a call and asked if i have tried the product i said yes but it did not work. i was told to try it again and this time it did ( the product had been modified ) and have been useing it ever since. steve carpenter promoted this product to me  with no benifit to himself was not and still is not working for onestep. steve has helped me in the past and i trust what he says and has shown me how to clean carpets the correct way.

steve

[Dave Parry]

I like the idea of One-step, but as a major part of my work is domestic not sure of the logistics. I believe you have to agitate to get the best results, I dont posses a machine capable of doing this so would have to use a pile brush. What about when you have furniture to move, this would involve pre spraying a part of the carpet, brushing, rinsing, moving the furniture round, pre spraying brushing rinsing etc. It just seems like a lot of extra work to me, but may (Probably) be wrong.

[Derek]

Hi Dave

Most of my work is domestic and I operate the vacuum, pretreat, agitate and rinse procedures...not forgetting the final grooming of course.

I also use a micro-splitting chemical as a pretreatment.. it works for me very well.
Move the furniture to the centre clean the edges/sides, replace furniture making sure you pad and block then do the central areas...easy peasy.

Its the only way to do it...unless of course you take ALL the furniture out of the room first, clean the carpet then replace furniture either immediately or go back the folllowing day.. I know of cleaners who actually do it that way.

Derek

[Dave Parry]

Hi Derek, what method do you use to agitate, Brush or mechanical means. Just about to get my T/M and dont think I will have enough room for another m/c.

[Dynafoam]

Dave,

I find the old-type Host machine (without vac) excellent for brushing-in and pile-lifting at the same time.

With the handle removed it takes up so little space you could almost put it under the drivers seat !

John.

[Dave Parry]

Ta John, Looks Like I'll have to look out for a s/h host before I give micro splitters a try.

[Derek]

Hi Dave

John took the words right off of my PC  

Derek

[squeaky]

I have always used craftex/prochem products but I am always interested in something different.
I spoke to Nick at Solutions a couple of days ago and he has recommended that I try Solutions No 2I willpick some up next week and give it a go .

Watch this space

Mark

[Lionel]

Its a shame that this board has become like Cleantalk, One Step this One Step that, Steve Carpenter, Derek Bolton you both promote this product, you both give seminars and training in the product.This Board is nothing more than biased advertising, you dont see Chemspec or other reps flaunting their gear on this board. It makes me sick.

[Derek]

Hi Lionel

Sorry 'old son' but you couldn't be more wrong...

I  always try to be generic (not possible everytime when a direct question is asked of me) and I refered to micro -splitting chemicals in my last posts.. which one I was referring to you will have to guess.

The only time I have ever been at a seminar when a micro-splitter chemical was promoted was for a Company in the South when I was asked to do a specific presention on 'problem fabrics' which I did.... the company hosting the day was a Prochem distributor.  

I have undertaken training courses/seminars over the years for various organisations and the only product I have ever promoted was 3M's Scotchgard...I was training applicators/retailers at the time....which I think is fair.

Both this Forum and Cleantalk are excellent communication centres for carpet and upholstery cleaners...and yes, whenever carpet cleaners meet we talk clean carpets and that includes chemicals and machines...

I won't apologise for myself or anyone else for that.  

On the contrary I think it is healthy for the industry.

I buy and use Prochem chemicals, Chemspec chemicals plus some chemicals from other sources. You will note in my posts that I have admitted to having several different makes of machines.

I am not promoting them merely answering questions or trying to help someone...since when has that been a cardinal sin?

Derek

[Mike_Boxall]

Its a shame that this board has become like Cleantalk, One Step this One Step that, Steve Carpenter, Derek Bolton you both promote this product, you both give seminars and training in the product.This Board is nothing more than biased advertising, you dont see Chemspec or other reps flaunting their gear on this board. It makes me sick.

Hi Lionel

So what's the answer?

This type of comment / argument is cropping up more and more and will continue to do so as long as we keep getting more members with differing and/or strong opinions.

Steve Carpenter is an extremely experienced cc and has given a lot of good unbiased advice in the past (although lately he does only tend to get involved in the CFR / One Step topics )
Derek's opinion on the other hand I do believe is unbiased and most members, if not all, respect it.
Perhaps I can just remind you that he spends a great deal of his time giving both general and technical advice, which is what most people use this forum for.

If you have suggestions on how we can improve this site please feel free to let us know. We're all keen to improve it whilst not offending all those who are genuinely prepared to take time out to help others.

Regards

Mike

[Mike Halliday]

I went to the doctors yesturday and told him everytime i eat red peppers it makes me feel sick
guess what he told me? don't eat red peppers!!

So Lionel if these boards are making you sick,  thingy off

Mike

[mickeyfat]

you cant even have them on pizza's
you poor poor man  

[Tony_Browning]

here,here mike

[Len Gribble]

Hi Lionel

Sorry but I must agree with Derek, Mike B & Mike H on your issue. Why aren’t you having a go at say Host, Dry Fusion, Bane, Ashby, T/M or any other cleaning systems on these forums?

Me carpet T/M T/M T/M, portable upholstery. Cleaning agents XL & multi pro, portable fab presrpay/restorer & f&f rinse. You only have to look at Chemspec or prochem’s sales brochures to see the array of general cleaning agents, and I’ve been though them all, the mind boggles what do I use, so what’s wrong in standardising into one or two agent if they work? I’m running tests on my own & families carpets/upholstery to see what I (keep an open mind) think is the best and not the sales rep or agent manufacture recommendations, I’m not in the pocket of any manufacture and never will be!


Chemspec & Prochem must know of the cc forums so why aren’t they promoting their products? (Good as they are, there is always something new around the block) Complacency rings a bell with me or draw you own conclusions.

Correct me if I’m wrong, don’t you advertise that you are the best cc in town, prove it!!

The only criticism I have with this forum is some members do not give their correct or full details LIKE YOU!! (I wish all would come clean)

This will be probably the last post on this matter I’m always late, work you know 24/5.5

Have a prosperous year all.

Len

[Ken Wainwright]

So how old are you Len? Where about in the South East do you come from?

Safe and happy cleaning:)
Ken

[Len Gribble]

Hi Ken

Thanks for asking and reminding me.  I have just updated my forum details age and location, not a problem.

Len