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geefree

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Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« on: January 28, 2012, 04:41:09 pm »
Hi,

Will shortly be getting rid of my 640 litre IBC tank, which has a 3000 watt element inside, and is , and has been great in the winter.

I will shortly be getting a flat 650 tank, and i want to put another element in it , but i dont want to drill into the plastic, as i did with the ibc.

Has anyone put one in via the 8" lid, or other ways without damaging the tank?

Thanks.

Gary.

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Re: Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 05:34:09 pm »
Hi,

Will shortly be getting rid of my 640 litre IBC tank, which has a 3000 watt element inside, and is , and has been great in the winter.

I will shortly be getting a flat 650 tank, and i want to put another element in it , but i dont want to drill into the plastic, as i did with the ibc.

Has anyone put one in via the 8" lid, or other ways without damaging the tank?

Thanks.

Gary.

Mine, which I think is the same as yours- a domestic water tank element is in my 400ltr flat tank.

These elements must be fully submersed. Mine's in via a mechanical flange, which is a far better solution than not having one.

However, if you do go with this kind again, I would find out the tank wall thickness as it might well be thicker than a 400ltr tank wall.

Re: Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 06:21:00 pm »
I have two static tanks with immersion heater and a pond 500 watt heater to preheat them. Try and find your mechanical flange as they have been recalled by the only factory and difficult to find. I could only get one with hex spanner grip so could only hand tighten. I use plumber hemp and a uni bond extream glue to bond it in.   

geefree

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Re: Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 06:30:17 pm »
Thanks,

I dont want to put the element through the wall of the tank, (did this with the ibc as cheap tank)

I wondered if  anyone has done it a dif way ,... maybe with the lid or other ways.

geefree

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Re: Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 09:07:28 pm »
Anyone.?

john stracey

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Re: Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 09:28:39 pm »
i got a  custie of mine whose a plumber to do mine i just stood and watched found that an easy job 8)

gto

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Re: Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 08:46:48 am »
i was thinking of fitting one in a spare lid verticaly installed.
but i think if any of the element isn't submersed fully it will kill it.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 09:01:14 am »
Anyone.?

OK Gazza - here goes - don't put it in the lid as it will always have to be full or it's burnt element time. Also heat rises so its top half warm bottom half cold (where the outlet is) because the outlet is down there.

I have put elements (3kw) in a 200L (Trailer) and a 400L (Van) and they work fine - all toasty now waiting for me to go out now and start like I did yesterday.

Use the search engine on here and a thread will come up with piccy's.

Go to TOOLSTATION or SCREWFIX - buy an element (short 11" type) with thermostat included. >£20. Ask them for an "Immersion spanner" It's like a big box spanner 3" plus across with a turning bar. > £20.

Buy a 6" adjustable hole cutter for wood and plastic to go on a drill > £20

I bought the flange - not necessary - just make sure you cut the hole (so that the bottom of the hole is just above the outlet to the pump) a bit small and wind in the element cutting its own thread - you can use some sealant if you like.

Wind it back out and vacuum out all the plastic "cuttings" that may have fallen inside the tank.

If you haven't got a filter - get one so that the bit of plastic "cutting" you miss doesn't get sucked into the pump!

Buy a timer so it clicks on and off at the right time - for my 400L it's on at 2am off at 6am - for my 200L it's on at 6.05 and off at 8.00.

Make sure you don't have anything else on the spur (except say a light or a battery charger) at the same time you switch on - eg oil filled rad.
It's a game of three halves!

geefree

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Re: Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 08:17:01 pm »
Hi Gold,

Done all that on my ibc,

was just asking for alternate ways , for a new flat tank...but there aint any .

Thanks for all the replies

AuRavelling79

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Re: Anyone put an element in a flat tank without ruining it?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 08:47:08 pm »
Hi Gold,

Done all that on my ibc,

was just asking for alternate ways , for a new flat tank...but there aint any .

Thanks for all the replies

Why do you need an alternative - it works fine in both my flat tanks?
It's a game of three halves!