[alank]

Hi all, ive been trad for 9 years and recently using wagtails on a pole, ive found this o.k but now wanting to start with wfp in the spring. I am considering wcw backpacs to start with. my customers are fine with me using my current poles so they hopefully will be ok with waterfed. what is bothering me though is how many cleans will it take to get the windows to a good standard can i achieve an acceptable standard on the first clean? and if so, how?

[Frankybadboy]

1st time if done right

[alank]

thanks, i will just make sure its right 1st time even if it takes a bit longer.

[dazmond]

forget the backpack and get a van mount straight away or else youll have to fill it 3 times just to clean one house on a first clean!!itll take you 3 times longer than trad and youll want to go back trad after a week!!!

[magic moments]

I'm sure you could do ok on a back pack I'm going to do the same,can't afford anything else,so for me can't forget it and will have to make do

[SB Cleaning]

I very rarely get any problems with first cleans these days

[AS Window Cleaning]

forget the backpack and get a van mount straight away or else youll have to fill it 3 times just to clean one house on a first clean!!itll take you 3 times longer than trad and youll want to go back trad after a week!!!

I can imagine this is true.  And i think Daz would know, with his history with containers!!

If give it another of a scrubbing and plenty of water most will come good on the first clean.  I prepared customers for it to take up to 3 cleans, but most were good on the first, with just the odd window occasionally needing a second visit.

[alank]

good point dazmond was thinking try backpack first to try it out but like you say i could be giving myself headache. I currently use lwb shogun so i should be able to fit a system in there.

[KS Cleaning]

Hi all, ive been trad for 9 years and recently using wagtails on a pole, ive found this o.k but now wanting to start with wfp in the spring. I am considering wcw backpacs to start with. my customers are fine with me using my current poles so they hopefully will be ok with waterfed. what is bothering me though is how many cleans will it take to get the windows to a good standard can i achieve an acceptable standard on the first clean? and if so, how?

if you have another trad clean before switching,give the top frame and seal a wipe with the cloth.

[CLEANCARE WC]

Hi all, ive been trad for 9 years and recently using wagtails on a pole, ive found this o.k but now wanting to start with wfp in the spring. I am considering wcw backpacs to start with. my customers are fine with me using my current poles so they hopefully will be ok with waterfed. what is bothering me though is how many cleans will it take to get the windows to a good standard can i achieve an acceptable standard on the first clean? and if so, how?

if you have another trad clean before switching,give the top frame and seal a wipe with the cloth.

good advice

[jouk45]

forget the backpack and get a van mount straight away or else youll have to fill it 3 times just to clean one house on a first clean!!itll take you 3 times longer than trad and youll want to go back trad after a week!!!

daz. i have and still use a backpack for many years, where are you getting  fill the backpack 3 times, i clean 5 bedroom houses with a filled backpack, maintaince clean of course, been doing this for years with no complaints, i think its time we had a competition between a backpack user and a wfp reel user, lets put this to rest lol

[alank]

so jouk do you only use backpack coz i would imagine they would be easier. no hose reel, etc?

[richard jagger]

Let me give you a few tips for first cleans  which even the van mounts will find if difficult to  do . Because of the large tanks. Get some I P A from Jenny chem at 12pound a 5 litre and add 2 table spoons to each back pak full of water and clean the glass with this mixture it will deliver great result even on greasy sand glass easily.Or get some Ecover dish washing liquid and put water in a bucket with a few squirts of Ecover and dip the brush in to the mixture and clean the glass.Then clean with the water flowing. You will find Ecover bio degrades well and will no leave spots us only one of these methods your customers will be impressed. 

[David Salkeld]

forget the backpack and get a van mount straight away or else youll have to fill it 3 times just to clean one house on a first clean!!itll take you 3 times longer than trad and youll want to go back trad after a week!!!

daz. i have and still use a backpack for many years, where are you getting  fill the backpack 3 times, i clean 5 bedroom houses with a filled backpack, maintaince clean of course, been doing this for years with no complaints, i think its time we had a competition between a backpack user and a wfp reel user, lets put this to rest lol

Hi Joe.
Remember my discussion on this very subject with...Groundhogg??

David