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Timmy Boy

  • Posts: 431
How unreasonable!!
« on: December 16, 2005, 03:24:04 pm »
All
I have had my guys cleaning seats in a bingo hall. 200 seats per night, can't start till 23.15, locked in the building by security and work till 07.00 when the security is allowed to let us out. For all you Health & safety minded chaps, we do have emergency exits but it sets the alarms off.
Now here's the good bit, we received a call at 09.30 this morning that the seats were still wet!! NO S**T SHERLOCK!! We explained that when you HWE dirt from a sponge seat, they might be left a tad damp. The bingo hall has said that they are not sure if they want to continue with the job. Great! >:(
When asked what did they expect they did not know but did say that the seats looked clean. I am using a drymaster hand tool as well with a dual motor extractor so I am doing all I can, or am I? Is there any way of speeding up the drying time? I thought of heaters but won't this just dry the surface and not the sponge cushion?
Or is it they are just being bloody unreasonable!
Regards
Tim

John_Flynn

  • Posts: 1108
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2005, 04:02:56 pm »
Put some Turbo Dryers in and direct the air across the seats, would help if the heating was turned on in the hall too.
I get better looking each day!!

Timmy Boy

  • Posts: 431
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2005, 04:43:30 pm »
John
The heating was on but because the room is sealed the atmosphere is really damp AAAAAAGGGGHHHH

mark_roberts

  • Posts: 1899
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2005, 04:45:58 pm »
What??  You didnt explain the seats would be a tad damp before your started :o

If your in all night then do as suggested above.  Use a CFR tool which dosent  wet the spoonge.

Could try Chemspecs upholstery shampoo for the lightly soiled seats.

Mark

Timmy Boy

  • Posts: 431
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2005, 04:53:23 pm »
Thats the thing, I am using the hydromaster version of the CFR principal and it does leave them dryer than a standard tool but the bingo duty managers are going to the wettest seats (the ones finished at 07.00) and are suprised to find they are damp!

John_Flynn

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Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2005, 05:02:13 pm »
That is the reason they are NOT drying you got to have some ventilation to take the condensation out.

You could do with a MASSIVE dehumidifier, please do not waste your money by putting a small one in.

Explain to your clients that they are not doing themselves any favours by having you working in a sealed enviroment, what do they do for ventilation when they have a FULL HOUSE ??



I get better looking each day!!

Timmy Boy

  • Posts: 431
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2005, 05:16:07 pm »
I think most of their clients bring their own oxygen ;D

wmidsgw

  • Posts: 54
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2005, 05:17:24 pm »
Thoroughly vacuum all seating first.

Depending on the degree of soiling, I would imagine it would be possible to prespray, agitate and hand towel/clean the back rests.

As regards to the seat pad, I would again use a low moisture approach. Pre treat and use a hand held rotary with a pad attachment, something like a tex. stair tool. Have used this many times in these situations with good results and dry within 60 minutes or less.

This does work and far, far less hassle all round.

G.

Mike Halliday

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Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2005, 05:28:29 pm »
are the seats screwed to the  floor or can you lay them on their side?
if they aren't fixed then I can't see why you can't get them dry in 1/2 an hour.

I'd use all the air mover I could get my hands on.

 If they are fixed I'd mix up a foam solution in a bucket, aggitate it in with  a brush then just vac it off ( with some defoamer in the tank)

Mike
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

BRSL

  • Posts: 660
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2005, 05:34:16 pm »
Ive cleaned bingo halls and cinemas in the past and also had problems the only way i got around it was two air movers on every isle, I also used a DriMaster but with a T/M, I never new u could use it with a portable, try to get sections allocated and shut off for the next morning just incase
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Kind regards James C

woodman

  • Posts: 1069
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2005, 05:36:34 pm »
Thorough vacuum,

pre-spray with MS and Mini-Tex them.

they will be dry in 15-30 minutes in that environment ;)

Timmy Boy

  • Posts: 431
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2005, 05:39:21 pm »
pre spray with Mwhat? and use a mini-texwho?
What are these new fangled doo-dahs that all the coolcats have?

Teddycare

  • Posts: 103
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2005, 06:49:10 pm »
Unreasonable yes, take the bingo duty manager ( what a stupid title) by the scruff of the neck and stick his face into the first seat you cleaned that evening, and ask him, is it dry.
If he agrees then remind him that the rest of the seats would be a lot drier if you had some decent ventilation.

Personally I would never work under those circumstances, I insist on free passage to and from the building at all times, we operate a truck mounted machine and obviously need to attend to it throughout the job, but even using portables, there are times when you need to go to your vehicle for tools to repair something that has broken, or maybe spare parts, basically tell him that nothing will dry quickly in a closed environment.
And may I suggest it is better to deal with the management, than some insignificant person who resembles something you accidentally trot in in the street.
Sorry it's Friday evening and I've had a hard week, but don't some customers make you mad, in actual fact your particular customer makes me mad and I would probably tell him where to stick his seats.

Only another week to go and we can have some time of, thank God for that, Ted   ;D

Martin S

  • Posts: 455
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2005, 06:53:13 pm »
Martin

therapist

Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2005, 06:58:32 pm »
MS relates to Microsplitters and Mini Tex to a hand held mini bonnet mop, not exactly new technology, as M/S have been around for at least 6 years

r m

Chris Bailey

  • Posts: 281
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2005, 07:59:38 pm »
Tim, what price did you get per seat?
Carpet Care

Leicester

Mr Dvae

  • Posts: 445
Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2005, 08:29:29 am »
I always tell my customers that furniture takes upto 24 hrs to dry, so if it's dry in 6hrs they're over the moon.

regards


Dave

Karl Wildey

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Re: How unreasonable!!
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2005, 09:29:03 am »
commercial work is so much hassle, beyond dirty items, unsocailable hours, cheap rates and then you have to wait to be paid.
But larger pay outs. Is it worth it. maybe I should have started a new post on this.