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L.J.Thorpe

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2011, 09:44:25 pm »
right just read that last post about the 3 storey extension bit
got you now :)

Smudger

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2011, 08:24:40 am »
We are Gutter Cleaning Systems...our largest individual customers for our weedhook are Omnivac owners....oops!!


Is that because the Omnivac is so popular ? :P

Mike - if you search the threads you will find many, many posts and pics where i have promoted the use of gutter vac's - of any make beacause they are safer than using ladders - IMO the smaller items are not as effective as the larger stuff - ie.. you need a weed hook as it wont suck out weeds - you have people taking them up ladders to get closer to the gutter - 'mock up' blocked gutters are used to 'show-off' how good they are - rather than filming a 'real' blocked gutter

We have never pulled out a gutter from it's clips - they are stronger than you think - but yes be careful of end caps !
if you are having trouble moving along the gutter it maybe that the roof felt has been left long and laid into the gutter - then its like using the nozzle on a carpet.

Unlike others i have no agenda with recomending any particular vac - i know they are good - some better than others and dont want to see things overhyped only to lead peoples dissapointment

Best regards
Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Scoop

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2011, 09:54:12 am »

if you are having trouble moving along the gutter it maybe that the roof felt has been left long and laid into the gutter - then its like using the nozzle on a carpet.


A carpet that's not stuck to the floor Darran. The nozzle grabs the felt and it's like a tug of war with a golden retreiver. The trick is to run along the top of it as best you can but then also try to get underneath it as a lot of the rubbish is under the felt. I still don't know why some roofers do this  >:( Also watch out for another of my pet hates - the sat dish installer who has used the gutter as a handy channel for his wires over a 30 metre length  >:( >:(

Re the wire mesh on the gutter, as far as I'm concerned that's game over before it's even started. I just tell them to get the guy who installed the mesh to come and clean the gutters  ;D
Don't wish it were easier. Wish that you were better - Jim Rohn

Smudger

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2011, 03:31:19 pm »
Yep totally agree with you on both counts scoop

PITA when the gutter has been used as a cable run  ::)

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Nick Day

Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2011, 08:14:42 pm »
Darran,

As you have set yourself up as an expert on gutter cleaning, you really should point out that you have never actually tried and operated any of the kits that you criticise.

Smudger

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2011, 11:06:14 pm »
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh   there we have it yet again !


i have merely put forward my experience's and opinions - which i might add i am perfectly entitled to do on a open forum.
rather than being 'prickly' because people ask a few questions or disagree with your sales pitch and have found other suppliers to be excellent at both domestic and commercial work you take offence.

just to remind you that on another thread/forum it was you who slated me and tried to pass me off as a 'rival' - which plainly is not the case.

personally i hope you sell many, many vac systems because the more people that use these safely from the ground the better !
having said that i think you should be selling it on it's own merits and not by rubbishing other companies systems

As for trying one - feel free to drop one off for a a week or 2 - as you know i'm only five mins down the road  :-*

Lighten up a bit and respect other people once in a while

all the best

Darran

Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Frankybadboy

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2011, 07:14:16 am »
Darran,

As you have set yourself up as an expert on gutter cleaning, you really should point out that you have never actually tried and operated any of the kits that you criticise.
yawn yawn yawn

"im about to get a gutter vac, can anyone who has one convince its a good investment?"

so nick when you put a quote like this when you are a surpplier what do you except,or are you just trying to get more sales.hmmmmmmmmm

there i was thinking the forum had rules on suppliers. :o :o :o :o :o

Smurf

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2011, 04:10:13 pm »
Omni guttervac works well for me :)

bad trippy

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2011, 07:16:04 pm »
If you aint got a gutter vac, your a nobody, simples
Gutter vac is king and its so cool, trendy as hell infact
BUY ONE TODAY, YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE
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mikecam

Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2011, 09:08:53 pm »
Done another job today, took no pics sorry, but mine pulled out big heavy clumps of grass and growing weeds. What i had to do was lift it up from the gutter and then as its to big to go down the tube, lift it over the gutter switch the gutter vac off and let it drop down. Now a question..........where my intake goes into the drum there is a 90 degree bend/shield sort of thing and this is a potential (actual!) blocking point. Can i remove (cut away) the shield so the contents just fly into the drum (probably aiming straight at the filter) or do i have to leave that little angle jobby on?

Dave Willis

Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2011, 09:47:24 pm »
Like you said it will fire the crud directly at the filter/motor. Omnivac modify their inlets so that the ninety degree bend is eliminated. Quite simple really just a tube that runs closer to the drum wall. They give it a fancy name like cyclonic inlet and claim it boosts suction. I don't understand why the Clarke versions aren't modified the same. Someone could make a few bob just by supplying the inlets i would imagine.

mikecam

Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2011, 09:54:06 pm »
Like you said it will fire the crud directly at the filter/motor. Omnivac modify their inlets so that the ninety degree bend is eliminated. Quite simple really just a tube that runs closer to the drum wall. They give it a fancy name like cyclonic inlet and claim it boosts suction. I don't understand why the Clarke versions aren't modified the same. Someone could make a few bob just by supplying the inlets i would imagine.

Whats the inlets on your aldi/lidle one like? Also, i'm not asking you to be responsible if i get it wrong but would you take a chance and saw some of that 90 degree of a little bit?


Dave Willis

Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2011, 10:01:10 pm »
I only use 38mm hose. I think the latest Omnivac has 100mm inlet. Not sure how it works. massive suction too.

mikecam

Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2011, 10:13:52 pm »
Ok, thanks for that. I'll take a chance and trim it back towards 45 degree.

paul saunders

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2011, 10:55:05 pm »
Darran,

As you have set yourself up as an expert on gutter cleaning, you really should point out that you have never actually tried and operated any of the kits that you criticise.
yawn yawn yawn

"im about to get a gutter vac, can anyone who has one convince its a good investment?"

so nick when you put a quote like this when you are a surpplier what do you except,or are you just trying to get more sales.hmmmmmmmmm

there i was thinking the forum had rules on suppliers. :o :o :o :o :o

I think you'll find that that was written by "MICK HAY" not "NICK DAY".   ;)
I can remember when waking up stiff in the morning was a good thing.

Ian Rochester

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Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2011, 04:58:30 am »
We got "given" a Gutter Vac set up earlier this year when we bought out another window cleaning round, tried it once and for us on small jobs it's more hassle than using ladders.

Majority of our customers want their whites cleaned as well as their gutters emptied so for now we are just doing them from ladders and making very good money from it.

If work comes in that requires the use of a gutter vac then we have it, but mostly we cope quite well and safely from ladders.

Dave Willis

Re: gutter vac...convince me!!!
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2011, 07:48:24 am »
The bigger and more powerful the vac is the better it will be. However, once you get to Omnivac size for residential then the more of a pain in the arse it is, particularly if you want your own power. 6kva generator is a monster and near impossible for one man to shift. The small vacs are less efficient but so easy to cart about and most customers don't object to you using their electric.