[Andrew Willis]

Why on earth not?

Surely if you need to be 2 foot higher up this is the safest method practicably applicable, provided the short ladders are properly maintained?

I for one would be interested in both courses (ladder & WFP) but Newcastle and Leeds are quite a long way from us.

As a ladder user for many years yours are an interesting concept got to say have never come across this before, so there’s a first.

The issue would be stability, operative climbing to high but I cant really comment, as I have not used them?   

The real issue is liabilities to you as an employer

HSE Guidance is clear in that you need to maintain three points of contact when climbing a ladder it also makes following reference

7   This refers to the type of work and its duration. As a guide, only use a ladder or stepladder:

On a ladder where you cannot maintain a handhold, other than for a brief period of time, other measures will be needed to prevent a fall or reduce the consequences of one.

 http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg402.pdf

I will get David in the office to check funding in Scotland for City and Guilds
This way we could build the courses around this activity and see if we can come up with a training module for you (part funded)

How many window cleaners have you got

Have you other companies that you know that could make a group of 20

Regards
Andy

[formb]

It is an interesting point with the 3 points of contact, I would be interested to know how high would be considered 'working at height' as I said these are only ever used when you need to be 2 foot higher up if at all.

There are 10 of us in total. I am certain that I could easily round up another 10 local window cleaners. Would this get me a discount? Me doing your sales and all?

Give me a phone on Tuesday if you want as I will be out on the glass tomorrow.

[Andrew Willis]

It is an interesting point with the 3 points of contact, I would be interested to know how high would be considered 'working at height' as I said these are only ever used when you need to be 2 foot higher up if at all.

There are 10 of us in total. I am certain that I could easily round up another 10 local window cleaners. Would this get me a discount? Me doing your sales and all?

Give me a phone on Tuesday if you want as I will be out on the glass tomorrow.

OK to all ...Regards

Andy

[trevor perry]

Andrew what makes your course more specific for window cleaning ie what does it teach that other ladder training courses dont i ask this because your course is about £40 dearer than many other providers, if you can list specifically what your course covers i can then assess whether it is worth the extra money for my employees to attend

I am pretty sure both our next City and Guilds QCF level 2 and ladder training courses are full in Manchester

If you are interested in ladder training then call David in the office next week and based on numbers we may be able to slot a second date in the schedule

 Thanks Andrew your course content does sound much better for our industry, to start with i would only be interested in myself and one other member of staff to attend the course to first assess its benefits so when the next course date is available in manchester please let me know, one other question andrew does not the city and guilds course level 2 for window cleaners not include ladder training it seems a bit bizzar that you can have a level 2 in window cleaning and yet not be ladder trained

[Andrew Willis]

Andrew what makes your course more specific for window cleaning ie what does it teach that other ladder training courses dont i ask this because your course is about £40 dearer than many other providers, if you can list specifically what your course covers i can then assess whether it is worth the extra money for my employees to attend

I am pretty sure both our next City and Guilds QCF level 2 and ladder training courses are full in Manchester

If you are interested in ladder training then call David in the office next week and based on numbers we may be able to slot a second date in the schedule

 Thanks Andrew your course content does sound much better for our industry, to start with i would only be interested in myself and one other member of staff to attend the course to first assess its benefits so when the next course date is available in manchester please let me know, one other question andrew does not the city and guilds course level 2 for window cleaners not include ladder training it seems a bit bizzar that you can have a level 2 in window cleaning and yet not be ladder trained

I will ask David to call and answer any questions you have

[Taylor & Taylor WC Services]

I am interested in the ladder course for 2 maybe 3? But not until June/July...........Boston is local to us so I can look up on the website nearer the time unless you want to contact us beforehand to arrange in advance?

[Andrew Willis]

I am interested in the ladder course for 2 maybe 3? But not until June/July...........Boston is local to us so I can look up on the website nearer the time unless you want to contact us beforehand to arrange in advance?

Will make a note to call you thanks Andy

[Darranvps]

Why on earth not?

Surely if you need to be 2 foot higher up this is the safest method practicably applicable, provided the short ladders are properly maintained?

I for one would be interested in both courses (ladder & WFP) but Newcastle and Leeds are quite a long way from us.

It would be safer to use a window cleaners pointer ladder, perhaps an Unger pole or a kick stool? The cutdown ladders look like an accident waiting to happen. I would be interested in finding out what made you use them?