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CARPET KNIGHTS

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Re: van weight
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2010, 07:01:55 pm »
no Stuart not a typing error 3360kg or 3.36 tonne

Dave_Lee

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Re: van weight
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2010, 07:05:24 pm »
problem solved

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320602815682&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 unfortunately not :( :( the trailer weight is added to the weight of the van  so you would still be too high

How do you mean Mike. The 'train load' is more then the vans max gross weight.
Dave.
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Chorley Lancs. Est 1980.
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Mike Halliday

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Re: van weight
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2010, 07:10:00 pm »
not sure of the exact detail


this is cut & pasted from the
government site

The maximum laden weight of a trailer which may be towed by a light goods vehicle depends on both the stated gross train weight of the towing vehicle (GTW) and the vehicle manufacturer's recommended maximum permissible trailer weight. Neither the maximum permissible trailer weight or the maximum gross train weight (the laden weight of the trailer plus the laden weight of the towing vehicle) should be exceeded. It is possible that the stated gross train weight is less than the sum of the stated maximum permissible laden weight of the towing vehicle and the stated maximum permissible laden trailer weight. In this case the towing vehicle and the trailer must be loaded such that each does not exceed its individual maximum limit and the sum of both does not exceed the maximum gross train weight.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

derek west

Re: van weight
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2010, 07:37:47 pm »
as long as you don't exeed each individual laden weight then its okay, you don't add the trailer weight to your van weight. would be pointless getting a trailer if you had to empty your van. ???

just need to check your gross train weight for that particular vehicle

Joe H

Re: van weight
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2010, 08:14:55 pm »
Copied from      http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicles/vssafety/requirementsfortrailers

Weight
In the case of light trailers, that is less than 3500kg maximum laden weight, there is not any specified relationship in UK law between the weight of the towing vehicle and the weight of the trailer.

For M1 category vehicles (motor vehicles used for the carriage of passengers and comprising not more than eight seats in addition to the driver's seat) the maximum permissible trailer weight is quoted by the vehicle manufacturer. Alternatively, the vehicle manufacturer may provide a maximum gross train weight (the laden weight of the trailer plus the laden weight of the towing vehicle). If this is exceeded it is possible that the Courts or Insurance Companies may take the view that this constitutes a danger.

The maximum laden weight of a trailer which may be towed by a light goods vehicle depends on both the stated gross train weight of the towing vehicle (GTW) and the vehicle manufacturer's recommended maximum permissible trailer weight. Neither the maximum permissible trailer weight or the maximum gross train weight (the laden weight of the trailer plus the laden weight of the towing vehicle) should be exceeded. It is possible that the stated gross train weight is less than the sum of the stated maximum permissible laden weight of the towing vehicle and the stated maximum permissible laden trailer weight. In this case the towing vehicle and the trailer must be loaded such that each does not exceed its individual maximum limit and the sum of both does not exceed the maximum gross train weight.

It is not a requirement to display a notice of the unladen weight of the trailer or the towing vehicle, unless the towing vehicle is either a motor tractor or a locomotive, as defined in the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986.

slioch

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Re: van weight
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2010, 08:17:21 pm »
Getting a van over 3500 gross runs into lots of bureaucracy with registering it so don't buy one until you know what you are getting into.

Len Gribble

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Re: van weight
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2010, 08:49:25 pm »
Not sure but I think some newbie licences may not allow you to tow a trailer, then there are some limitation on some licences (The ability to tow a caravan or trailer will depend on the driving licence you hold. The category entitlement on your driving licence will determine the type of trailer you can tow.) fortunity I still have the red book type and lists every thing  ;Dexcluding hgv and psv
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Joe H

Re: van weight
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2010, 04:24:25 am »
Not sure but I think some newbie licences may not allow you to tow a trailer, then there are some limitation on some licences (The ability to tow a caravan or trailer will depend on the driving licence you hold. The category entitlement on your driving licence will determine the type of trailer you can tow.) fortunity I still have the red book type and lists every thing  ;Dexcluding hgv and psv

Lens right.
Taken from the same link as before...............

Other considerations
The above information relates to basic construction requirements and some aspects of the use of trailers. In addition it is recommended that you check that you have the appropriate Driving Licence entitlement and whether the vehicle or combination of vehicles requires a tachograph to record driver's hours. The latter will apply to most vehicles and combinations of vehicles above 3500kg gross weight where used for commercial purposes.