[md_cleaning]

so many on here go on about acid rinse to get the ph in the carpet right, i hardly ever use it after a greatly respected member of this forum told me that if a carpets dirty the dirt brings the ph level down, so no need to acid rinse, if the carpets not filthy you don't need something so strong, so again no acid rinse, 70% of the time it's not needed, i know it's not expensive but any saving is good.
Dave

[Mike Halliday]

so the dirt reduces the ph : :

so what happens when you clean the areas within the room that aren't dirty? how does that Ph get reduced in those areas?

eg: under the suite or around the edges which don't get walked on, in these areas there is no dirt to reduce the PH

[derek west]

isn't acid rince a cleaning agent too? seems abit daft to miss an opportunity for 10p a carpet.

[Joe H]

Only real way to tell is if you do a test to measure the ph

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I use acid rinse in my TM because it keeps the scale down and by reducing the ph allows me to apply protector as most protector need an acid carpet to bond.

Shaun

[md_cleaning]

Why are you using hi ph pre sprays under sofas mike? Dave gave me this advice at your house a few years ago and I've never had any problems, if it's mild dirt and you go in heavy handed fair enough acid rinse otherwise your wasting pre spray and acid rinse, I have always respected what you say mike but this time your wide of the mark, Dave knows his stuff, so its good enough for me.

[Mike Halliday]

you've confused me are you saying that dirt will naturalise high ph  pre=sprays so you don't need to acid rinse if you have used High ph on dirt

so if the carpet is#nt dirty what do you clean the carpet with?

I though you were referring to then need to use an aid rinse after using a detergent as your first sentence say....."so many on here go on about acid rinse to get the ph in the carpet right" this would mean the Ph was not right after completion of the clean,

I'm starting to confuse myself now

[M.Acorn]

It`s also a colour stabiliser,and it also conditions the carpet,and stops browning ?

[md_cleaning]

Dave said you don't need acid rise often as you use high ph pre sprays on trashed carpets, the dirt lowers the ph so no need for acid rinse, you shouldn't be spraying high ph pre sprays on clean carpets, so no asid rinse either so it's over used, I never said never use it, but people are over using it, for de browning fine, stopping machine scailing up fine, but it's not needed on every job you use something thats high ph, you were there mike and you didn't disagree with Dave at the time. It is needed but not often, we should try and use as little add on chemicals as possible. Was a great day at yours tho Mike, did you ever do another one and did you invite Dave again after his naff advice?

[chrisjohn]

MD Cleaning

Just had a look at your website & please dont take this the wrong way.On your About Us page the spelling is really bad. ( exellent,affodable,couses,exraction etc etc )

Just trying to help

Chris

[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

chrisjohn.....,don't forget......restoratin.         

[richie]

To a extent i agree,  i have Ph tested carpets after using chemicals such as Prochem powerBurst and the carpet was neutral from just plain water rinsing.  Acid rinse agents will leave wool & wool rich carpets softer to touch.

Richie.

[M.Acorn]

How many times have we pre sprayed a clean patch of carpet ,only for it to turn a manky grey colour ? even under sofas which tend to be a dust trap

[robert meldrum]

I think the web site is still under construction and I've found spelling errors on MANY sites belonging to others on here. In fact while looking some of my own I found quite bit of unfinished work.

Living in a soft water area I've never worried about acidic rinsing but it's sensible to use it where there's the possibility of colour runs or other potential problems.

Another beautiful day up here so there will be lots of kids running in and out of houses spilling drinks and tramping in all sorts of smelly stuff into the carpets.

 

[Neil Williams]

a greatly respected member of this forum told me that if a carpets dirty the dirt brings the ph level down, so no need to acid rinse,

Think I know what the thought process is here, so here goes:
For arguement sake let's say a new carpet is clean (of course) and the ph is neutral.
If you clean that carpet with an alkaline cleaner then you're going to need to acid rinse to get it back to neutral.
If the carpet is really dirty then the chances are it will be dirty with acid based soils, therefore using an alkaline cleaner will somewhat correct the ph back to neutral, without the need to acid rinse.
This is all very well if the carpet is uniformally dirty which hardly if ever happens. So the book answer would be to make sure you apply acid rinse to leave ALL the carpet in an acid state.
But of course in the real world, if a carpet has been trashed that much then trying to make it brand new with a ph of 6 is futile. Just get the carpet clean and the customer will be chuffed to bits, because give it 6 months and the old habits of kids wearing their football boots in the house will have that carpet back to a right mess wether you leave it ph4,5,6,7,8 or flipping 10

Sunday sermon over. Thankyou

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

I prefer to clean carpets by the book, with a belt and braces approach.

Acid rinse costs pennies per clean so I don't see the point in not using it, you can use all sorts of wisdom to justify not using it but why, surely not to save money !?