[williamx]

I have looked at employing, I have even had all the paperwork needed drawn up, which cost over £600, the main problem I have with this route is the customer service and work quality that I will get from my staff.

can you tell me who drawn up all your paperwork??

cheers richy

A HR Company that specialises in employment law.
 
Do you know that you cannot ask certain questions when you are interviewing people and if you do and they don't get the job, they can then take you to a tribinal and they will win thousands from you.

Also you can not just sack anyone anymore, even for gross misconduct, you need to follow strict guildlines, if you don't then you could lose a unfair dismissal tribinal.

and remember that employment law is always changing, so unless you want to be sued its worthwhile going to the experts.

[Clive McDonald]

email me the paperwork and i'll let you know what i think.

[williamx]

email me the paperwork and i'll let you know what i think.

It will cost you loads

[The Jester of Wibbly]

Sounds a good idea but if I were to have been made redundant with £35K to spend, not having the confidence to build my old round I would spend 10K on a 3 year old van and new equipment, and buy a round or two maybe costing me another 5-10K. 

At least the van and equipment will be mine and good assets to hold, where I can recoop the some of the money back if I needed too, and then I also would not have to pay 10% of earnings out either. 

[brett walker]

i employed 3 lads for 16 yrs it was a nightmare and so much stress, you need to get hardworking reliable and trustworthy staff which is not always easy

i found the best way is to have compact work and large commercial jobs and keep the lads with me all working together so i could keep an eye on them and make sure the work was up to standard

i did occasionally leave them on their own but this led to problems, for the past 4 yrs ive worked alone and its been stress free its hard to get someone to clean at the same standard as you do

good luck with which ever way you go

Brett.

[Clive McDonald]

Yes it was a joke.
Interesting thread and i don't really have the answers. What Ian has to say is interesting (window washers put his windex lecture on here and also you should read the jims mowing story).

I don't believe that any amount of legals can cover this.Ian was very carefull in his choices.If i give you 35k and i am an idiot then you aren't going to progress much.

You remember about usp's, well this doesn't have one.All of the merry maid type things are sold as managment franchises- you don't do any cleaning you are the boss- this is the usp.Oven cleaning seems to sell well as a franchise.

Some things are cast iron and do work- Green thumb, Mcdonalds Dominoes.

A lot of sandwhich franchises are up for resale.

I suspect that the biz model for the cleaning managment biz models is that they are cheaper in the first place and a lot of people will walk away from a 10k investment without much fuss.

[williamx]

Sounds a good idea but if I were to have been made redundant with £35K to spend, not having the confidence to build my old round I would spend 10K on a 3 year old van and new equipment, and buy a round or two maybe costing me another 5-10K. 

At least the van and equipment will be mine and good assets to hold, where I can recoop the some of the money back if I needed too, and then I also would not have to pay 10% of earnings out either. 

The van and equipment would be yours.

If you wanted to set up a pizza delivery company you could do so for a lot less than "Dominoes" charges for their franchise, yet thousands of people have.


  

[williamx]

Yes it was a joke.
Interesting thread and i don't really have the answers. What Ian has to say is interesting (window washers put his windex lecture on here and also you should read the jims mowing story).

I don't believe that any amount of legals can cover this.Ian was very carefull in his choices.If i give you 35k and i am an idiot then you aren't going to progress much.

You remember about usp's, well this doesn't have one.All of the merry maid type things are sold as managment franchises- you don't do any cleaning you are the boss- this is the usp.Oven cleaning seems to sell well as a franchise.

Some things are cast iron and do work- Green thumb, Mcdonalds Dominoes.

A lot of sandwhich franchises are up for resale.

I suspect that the biz model for the cleaning managment biz models is that they are cheaper in the first place and a lot of people will walk away from a 10k investment without much fuss.

Concept CO seems to be doing ok sp far

[Clive McDonald]

They(conecept) have a usp- a great van system.

They are lpg and fully certified. Ionics have the thatchem test, concept have this.

You aren't offering anything unique- and they probably come in under your £35,000.


As a point of interest i've never known one of these people to come onto this forum.

[williamx]

They(conecept) have a usp- a great van system.

They are lpg and fully certified. Ionics have the thatchem test, concept have this.

You aren't offering anything unique- and they probably come in under your £35,000.


As a point of interest i've never known one of these people to come onto this forum.

They have been on this forum in the past, but the single vison replys from some of the fellow members made them go elsewere.

[Clive McDonald]

good answer but i mean't the users, not the people flogging them.


I liked the term single vision replies. Very good.

[williamx]

You aren't offering anything unique- and they probably come in under your £35,000.

Most franchises only come with equipment/supplies - training and back up, but no customers.

My unique factor will be the customers that are paying £25k pa into the cash till from day 1.

[williamx]

good answer but i mean't the users, not the people flogging them.


I liked the term single vision replies. Very good.

I have a Ionics brush head and hose connectors does that count