[Frankybadboy]

bryan
i got pulled up the other week,by the highways agency.
working a way in a cud de suc.where you dont see anybody.van parked on the road,hose lying on road then crosses over the path to the house.where i was working.cones on paths warning people.
he said i was breaking hs laws and to move the hose.

now to mr average,is this h&s gone mad.



how would you deal with this.

[idealrob]

Ladders not been securded, is a major issue for me, thousands of w,c use unsecured ladders every day and break the law and HSE have prosecuted no w/c for this
Not getting involved in ladder/WFP, just why wont they secure them, even JW who view life as sacred and hundreds dont secure

idealrob

[Sapphire Window Cleaning]

Ladders not been securded, is a major issue for me, thousands of w,c use unsecured ladders every day and break the law and HSE have prosecuted no w/c for this
Not getting involved in ladder/WFP, just why wont they secure them, even JW who view life as sacred and hundreds dont secure

idealrob

Is this accurate?
What I understand is that ladders extended to 6 metres and over are required to be secured to the building or scaffold.
6 metres is approximately the height of the guttering on a standard 3 bed semi.


Matt

[idealrob]

No height rule, all ladders must be secure. When we used to use ladders, we used a Rojac stopper and a ladder limpit, felt safe & secure.
most trad guys complain about cost of WFP , when for under a grand you can get a good system, bur still wont spend £40 on a ladder stopper that complies with securing ladders

idealrob

[mci services]

No height rule, all ladders must be secure. When we used to use ladders, we used a Rojac stopper and a ladder limpit, felt safe & secure.
most trad guys complain about cost of WFP , when for under a grand you can get a good system, bur still wont spend £40 on a ladder stopper that complies with securing ladders

idealrob

there is a height rule and its 6 meters

thers another one to clear up then

[idealrob]

So wheres the proof of height rule, what section is it in please of the WAHR

idealrob

[trevor perry]

one major issue i have is the use of ladders for internal windows ie in staircases and foyers etc, due to the way the WAHR are written some sites i clean automatically think that the use of ladder for these tasks is unaceptable and that i should be using so called safer access equipment like scaffolding but the risks of carrying scaffold through buildings erecting them and using them far outweighs the risk of using a secured ladder for a 20 minute job, i do use poles with microfibre pads and also use the ionics pro 10 for some internal work but for most jobs these just arent good enough as frames and sills are still left dirty.
  other issues have already been asked ie balconies and flat roofs.

 i think in the whole this is a good constructive topic and i would like to thank bryan for trying to get some answers at his next meeting.

[Bryan_Dolby]

Thank you for the information

Will collate ever thing and get back to you after the meeting

Will lock topic now

Bryan