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♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2010, 09:36:19 pm »
Rog

put your head between between the door and frame and get 3 people to push against the door, infact apply 500k of pressure and see what happens.

 ::) ::) ::) ::)

bluez

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Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2010, 09:46:45 pm »
 ;D ;D
excellent Dave st I

hi

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2010, 09:59:41 pm »
Win

I just wanted Squeeky to do it, not to prove anything, I just wanted him to do it    ;D

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2010, 10:19:32 pm »
 ;D

AuRavelling79

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Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2010, 10:23:27 pm »
But a door (with squeaky's head between it and the frame) has no resistance (other than squeaky's head).

So now put squeaky behind a closed door and get three men to push against it if it has a lock and a couple of frame bolts - it won't move. But if they shoulder charge it it probably will.

And this is where baffles come in useful in the tank - they make a difference too. Just think of a tanker lorry with 25,000 litres of fuel in it - why doesn't the front end of the tank (bulkhead) come off when it brakes or hits something? Baffles.
It's a game of three halves!

krave

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Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2010, 10:34:14 pm »
I have a 350 ltr tank in my van. It sits dead in between 9mm ply wheel arch covers which are made of a side and a top and thats it, pressed up against a steel bulkhead with a steel bar behind. Held very tight in place. When I go round a corner with the 350 ltr full there is no movement what so ever. I have had to emergency brake too. When I went around the corner with the battery (15kg) not pressed against the wheel arch box it slid and smashed it.

I honestly feel safe with this. I think if anyone does go down the ratchet root the tank sould be firmly against the bulkhead. Reducing inertia massively.

AJ

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Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2010, 09:20:29 am »
We lease vans from Arval. You can bolt down your tank if you want to, just fit rubber grommets in the holes when you return the van.

Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2010, 11:44:34 am »
We lease vans from Arval. You can bolt down your tank if you want to, just fit rubber grommets in the holes when you return the van.
Thanks for that.
That the sort of reply I was after.
Though the debate was interesting.


Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2010, 11:45:51 am »
Again apologies - I retract the 'roll eyes' :-[

No problem. When I re-read my post my meaning isn't clear enough.
Thanks

Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2010, 11:55:36 am »
Another thing to consider.
The floor in the back of your van is not very thick.
When disposing of a van I had finished with one of the bolts had rusted so I prised the metal frame with a claw hammer and the floor bent out of shape and the bolt came out. It (the floor) wasn't rusty and though I'm reasonably healthy I am not Arnold Schwarzenegger. My point is if you just bolt thru with a washer on the bottom the tank will not stay put in a crash.
If you notice the flooring in your van will have folds and ridges to make the floor stronger, because it is only thin steel.
In my van I had a 100mm square 10mm thick mild steel plate on the other side of the bolt along several washers.
I don't agree that you cannot provide the protection you need yourself. But I do think that thought should go into it

lesterM

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Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2010, 12:03:39 pm »
Thing is . you may not want to give it back.  May be the system has changed but at the end of the lease period you used to get the option to buy really cheap. And when you do relinquish its usually sold off as is to another party.
No Job Too Odd.
Dont Panic - let us do it for you.
Pure dealers since 1746

Dan French

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Re: Leased vans & how to fix tank...
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2010, 04:40:26 pm »
I was at Purefreedom picking some bits up the other day and while there I was talking to a chap that was having a system fitted to his lease van. The tank and RO etc was just added to the van lease deal so he had it all on one lease, as that was the case I dont think there is a problem with fitting tanks into lease vans. He had sold all his old stuff on and was having everything brand new for what sounded like an affordable monthly fee.