[james roffey]

I have the oppotunity of some regular commercial work, at the moment i am using HWE only so looking to invest in a bonnet system, i have trawled the various forums for previous threads about this and have an idea of what i am looking for.
My question is the thermadry/texatherm/dry fusion/ etc are considerably more expensive than, say a standard Victor rotary but they are being used by you guys so are the results worth the extra investment or can a basic bonnet sytem produce as good results? .
 should i stick with a basic rotary and if i brought a basic rotary would i still have a use for it if i later  upgraded to dry fusion/thermadry.
I dont expect to be doing massive expanses of carpet with the rotary but not really sure which one to go for how large etc, a lot of different questions i know but any help apreciated

[Ken Wainwright]

James

So many questions

IMO, with the more recent developments in rotary pad cleaning, you will definately be able to produce excellent results with a generic rotary. For a young business such as your own, I would pursue this avenue. The machine can be used for bonnet, skimming, encapsulation and shampoo, dry compound (at a push) and excellent agitation on larger, esp. commercial, jobs. Please note that Woolsafe don't recommend (generic) bonnet cleaning on wool yarns. It is possible though for an EXPERIENCED tec. to bonnet some wool safely with a "slippy" solution. Micro-splitters, IMO, are very borderline for this use. My preferred bonnet solution is one of the colloidals.

Although I've tried quite a few of the recently developed solutions, I still find that my Dry Fusion system performs to the highest standard. I also found in the earlier days that it was easier to sell as in effect, I was giving the customer something for nothing (ie protector).

If you were to purchase a branded system at a later date, you would still have good use for your generic rotary. I have both and would be lost without either of them.

Another option you have to consider is an OP machine. Many love them, some can't get on with them.

Safe and happy cleaning
The Ken

[cleaningmaster]

Ken,

can you give any names to the Colloidals

Many thanks

Daryl

[robert meldrum]

The two best known colloidals in the c/c industry are  from Restoremate in the Newcastle area the other from World of Clean in Cornwall.

[Len Gribble]

Think both the same but one is a lot cheaper

Ken

For one minute thought they committed to a system Generic = do NOT rub, its sad not a lot about op here is there a supplier


 

[james roffey]

Thanks Ken your advice is very helpful, always detailed and concise
i was a little concerned that any rotary i may buy now would be made redundant if i upgraded later.
I was looking at a victor multispeed which would i thought be more versatile thus allowing me the oppotunity to offer hard floors etc would you agree.

[Ken Wainwright]

Jim

Why would you want a multi speed rotary?  If you are doing strip and seal you need a low/standard speed. This is what  everybody uses.

If you need to regularly spray and buff, you need a higher speed. This operation is typically performed on a weekly or daily basis and usually performed by the daily cleaners. Would you be offering this service?

There may  be other occasions where you might need a higher speed but will you be offering this service?

Len

The Cornish connection offer their own build OP along with the Oreck. Other suppliers I don't know about.

Safe and happy cleaning
The Ken

[james roffey]

Ken i did a Salvation Army hall just before Christmas and i HWE that although it came up very well i am convinced a rotary could have done it much quicker, but they asked if i could do hard floors they had in another smaller room, i had to decline this particular job i assume that a higher speed rotary would have been required for this?

[Ken Wainwright]

For a strip and reseal Jim, no.

To spray and buff a floor is something that's done preferably between daily and weekly. It's for maintaining floors, not restoring them.

Most specialist carpet cleaners don't get involved with this sort of thing because there's little profit to be gained as a stand alone process. It's typically performed either in-house or by the daily contract cleaners. That's not to say you couldn't take it on board.

Safe and happy cleaning
The Ken