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fresh

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wilton/axminster
« on: January 16, 2010, 05:37:55 pm »
may sound daft but whats best way to test to see which is which and any info on cleaning heat etc would be great cheers

fitz2kleen

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Re: wilton/axminster
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 05:43:48 pm »
sorry if i sound rude, but a carpet cleaner that doesnt know the difference or how to clean them???
training course maybe?   :o

fresh

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Re: wilton/axminster
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 05:47:21 pm »
i know how and diff thanks its just that i read something on internet thet some bolgians have been made the same way and backing etc as axminster so just wondered

Ken Wainwright

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Re: wilton/axminster
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 12:18:24 pm »
fresh

Please sign your name at the bottom of each post so that we know who we're talking to :-\

The best way is to keep on looking! I gather that you can identify a woven carpet, and that's the important bit and I trust you can identify face fibre type. This will give you 90% of the information you need re. the likelihood of shrinkage and browning potential.

WILTONS
There are two basic types, whether plain or patterned. Traditional Wiltons will have the face yarn threads running in lines through the backing and will "break through" into the face of the carpet as and when required.

BELGIAN FRAME or Face to Face Wiltons are two carpets made in a single process. They can be plain eg Brinton's Bell Twist or patterned eg typical Belgian Wiltons. Think of a sandwich coming off the loom. The backings are on the outside and the face yarn on the inside. Knives slice through the face yarn, splitting the woven "sandwich" into two identical carpets. A patterned Belgian Frame Wilton will show it's pattern on the reverse, backing side, of the carpet. Obviously, a plain Belgian Frame Wilton has no pattern to show.

AXMINSTERS

There are two basic types of Axminster weaves. On both types, individual tufts are inserted and held  held within the backing. Spool Axminsters are identified in a similar way to Belgian Frame Wiltons. The pattern is clearly visible from the backing. Theoretically, these could have as many different colours as your heart desired.

Gripper Axminsters are the most common manufactured today and tend to have, from memory, a maximum of twelve different colours as well as plain carpets.  The pattern can be seen in the backing but it's not very clear because of the way the face yarns are "hidden" by the jute wefts.

My rule of thumb re. shrinkage with woven carpets is that if there are any weaknesses in the installation, an Axminster carpet MAY shrink and a Wilton carpet WILL shrink.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
The Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

fresh

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Re: wilton/axminster
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 11:21:08 pm »
cheers buddy i knew they where bit dodgy and have cleaned a axm but what i read on web was weird they said that axm where makin belg and was hard to tell diff now

fresh

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Re: wilton/axminster
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 11:22:23 pm »
thanks again ken anyway

Michael Smallwood

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Re: wilton/axminster
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 12:02:23 am »
When you are quoting, you can always ask the customer about their carpet, ie did they have it fitted, or was the carpet already there when they moved in? Many will be more than hapy to tell you if they have had an Axminster or Wilton fitted.
Mike Smallwood

www.mascleaning.com