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Phillip Mold

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Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« on: November 17, 2009, 08:47:26 am »
One of my regulars rang to say that her son has drawn a pretty house on the very visible side of her sofa in wax crayon. Would Solutions POG get it out or any other options I could try please?
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markpowell

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2009, 11:59:47 am »
Citrus gel would be my first choice, make sure you pre-test first.
Mark

Hilton

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2009, 01:55:47 pm »
WD 40, no problem  ;)

dave123

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 02:24:37 pm »
Agree with Mark on this one .
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richy27

Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 02:45:13 pm »
WD 40, no problem  ;)

funny you should say that but had a custy yesterday telling me he had good results with wd 40.   bet no knows what wd 40 stands for.    i tell you water dispersal and the 40 is how many times the formulation took before it was complete.

personally i would go with a solvent based spotter after pre tests

Hilton

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 03:37:41 pm »
we always have good results with it the right circumstances,

No need to use solvents on crayon, the WD40 will melt it and just extract it away, why complicate something relatively simple.

If you have never tried it before get an off cut of carpet scribble crayon on it, and apply the WD 40  and extract, you will be surprised at the results.

We used to do call outs for WD40, which also own 1001, when customers had over used the product or inappropriately applied it causing damage.It used to amuse us as we always would ask did you follow the manufacturers instructions and of course they always had, even if the carpet had a 1001 white patches on it or pile burst.

Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2009, 06:54:03 pm »

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   bet no knows what wd 40 stands for.    i tell you water dispersal and the 40 is how many times the formulation took before it was complete.


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I knew that :) :)
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 07:08:27 pm »
I use WD41 but I always like to go one better. ::)

Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2009, 07:09:15 pm »
No need to use solvents on crayon, the WD40 will melt it and just extract it away, why complicate something relatively simple.

So what do you use to remove the WD40 afterwards, as this is an oil and won't just breakdown and disappear, well at least not very quickly.

Mike Halliday

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2009, 07:16:54 pm »
WD40 is terrible for rinsing out, why not just use something designed for the job and its cheaper than WD40.

and why go straight in with the solvents, I bet plain water would take it out.

HIlton what would you class WD40 as?  its a wet non-volatile solvent
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2009, 08:09:12 pm »
The citrus cleaner from JK would do it.

Shaun

M.Acorn

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2009, 08:14:53 pm »
Think wd is made from fish oil,hence it`s dispersant properties,not sure where i heard that best check it`s right i suppose  ;D

Whoops i lied !!  ::)

There is a popular, but wrong, urban legend that the key ingredient in WD-40 is fish oil.[3] The WD-40 web site states that it is a petroleum based product [4]
What goes around comes around

Hilton

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2009, 08:58:44 pm »
WD40 is fine for the job, used it hundreds of times in different situations.

Mike,  its a wet non-volatile solvent  I'm Sorry don't know where your going with that, you've answered your own question.

The guy asked what could take out crayon and WD40 will with no problem at all, he said the crayons were wax,which suggests they are not the water soluble variety,so just using water will have no effect.

Most crayons contain oil in one form or another so its going to need some help in being removed and I suggested an alternative to the strong solvents you carry on your van.

If you carry the battery of solutions and solvents on your van as suggested on here then you could try them all, I would just pick up a tin of WD40 AND HAVE DONE WITH IT.

Apply WD40 it will soften it and then you can either scrape it away or extract it.Its best to extract as much as possible to avoid bioaccumulation.

It is biodegradable and will evaporate away leaving no determinable residue, it is not toxic, unless you fancy a pint, it is cheaper if used for not only stain removal but also as a tool, you should all have a tin on your vans.

 I said 'in the right circumstances' of course if the householder has an aversion to the slight vapor given off then don't use it.Using solvent cleaners in the home would give of more odour anyway.

By the way you can flush it down the sink if you want it is marine toxic free.
 ;)
And its good for athritis as well. ;D

Anyway good luck with it chap, I am sure you will do a great job.

Mike Halliday

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2009, 09:39:21 pm »
Hilton my question was rhetorical.

as for .... It is biodegradable and will evaporate away leaving no determinable residue, no it isn't & yes it will.

its a petroleum distillate and is designed to leave a residual protective coating when applied.

as for.... bioaccumulation.....marine toxic free.......good for arthritis  ??? ???


but even WD40s website is completely contradictory, so who knows
 


Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

dave123

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2009, 08:07:37 am »
Actually the wd40 for arthritis is true . I know a couple of people who's doctors have told them that .

Hilton

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2009, 08:50:51 am »
Sorry Mike yet again your wrong,

It is biodegradable and if treated properly will not leave any 'determinable' residue as it does evaporate away, if it didn't and stayed put, no matter what application you used it for, you would only ever have to use once   ;D

I'll explain the other bits your confused about,

Its not harmful to marine life, such as fish etc.

If treated as I suggested it will not bio accumulate, (in other words attract harmful toxins,air pollution and soils faster than it can evaporate away).

The arthritis bit, well I'll let you make your own mind up  ;)

Simplest way to find out is try it for your self as I suggested, like any other solutions either you get on with it or you don't,
look at micro splitters and M_-Power as an example.

Mike Halliday

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2009, 12:54:29 pm »
I don't think I am wrong. but we can agree to disagree on this one.
 :)


Dave just google WD40 & arthritis, its an urban myth (actually just google everything that has been said about WD40 in this topic)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

jasonl

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2009, 01:49:50 pm »
This has got to be one of the topics of the year!


Wax on .....Wax off as they say in Karate Kid.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings

Glynn

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2009, 01:51:03 pm »
WD40 stands for
Water Displacment 40th Attempt .
Regards
Glynn

Phillip Mold

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Re: Wax crayon on dralon sofa
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2009, 07:44:26 pm »
ECO POG (Solutions) worked a treat. Little blighter had drawn a house, what mummy had not told me was he had completely coloured it in with different colours!

Did not use the glycerol I had bought, just painted POG on, gently agitated with disposable cloth and rinse/extracted. Mrs from next door came in halway through, did not believe her eyes, gained another customer. Wish I'd had my camera with me!
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