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vacman

  • Posts: 396
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2009, 10:46:06 am »
The main thing about being a window cleaner is that you can go out and find your own customers. Driving instructors have to place expensive ads in yellow pages and the local papers and wait for the phone call.
Then when you get a new customer they are gone again when they pass their test.

Driving instuction involves a lot of weekend and evening work. Also, judging by the hourly rates advertised on the sides of the cars the money's not that good.

Plus they get a lot of lean periods when the phone doesn't ring but they still have to pay fror the car, insurance, advertising etc.

A mate of mine was a road safey officer for the local council. He took early retirement and started a driving school but even with his contacts he struggled to make a go of it.

I think window cleaning is a lot better.


a chap round my way advertises 5 lessons for £56 - how can that pay????

It might depend on how many full-price lessons you book and other fees applying. You guys should know better than anyone that people won't work for free and that there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Sean Dyer

  • Posts: 2947
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2009, 12:35:21 pm »
no its 5 lessons for £56. does what it says on tin :)

vacman

  • Posts: 396
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2009, 12:51:36 pm »
no its 5 lessons for £56. does what it says on tin :)

yeah i got that bit BUT what i am saying is, do you have to book say 10 to get 5 at that price? What is in the small print of this advertising?

Sean Dyer

  • Posts: 2947
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2009, 12:54:23 pm »
no honestly that is IT, 5 lessons are 56 .00

hence - how can he make money???

http://www.billplant.co.uk/driving_school.html

perhaps he pays minimum wage to drivers?

vacman

  • Posts: 396
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2009, 01:13:35 pm »

Sean Dyer

  • Posts: 2947
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2009, 02:15:49 pm »
5 lessons for £56 , first free then 4 for £14 or 5 for 56 lol still same

plus my instrucot said its about 40 lessons average , i passed much sooner, but avgs are statistically correct

also the first link is just one person saying "o they never turned up" they could have got it wrong, your custies am sure do that to

im nothing to do with bill plant, but the offer is genuine

and back to the point of it...

how does that pay??
even at £14 a lesson

vacman

  • Posts: 396
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2009, 03:14:22 pm »
By trying to get them to commit to more lessons than they need i guess ?  ??? Dunno m8. But if it's like where i live, you can't move for bill plant cars. Which i presume means that lots of instructors are joining this franchise?

barry80

  • Posts: 116
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2009, 10:31:08 pm »
?
hello.

barry80

  • Posts: 116
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2009, 10:38:10 pm »
i think i am going to be a driving instructor lol
hello.

johns window kleen

  • Posts: 406
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2009, 03:07:05 pm »
I looked into doing this last year, and spoke to a couple of DI'S, one was a friend of a friend so it was impartial/accurate advice.

If its just earnings your looking at then WC is clearly the best bet over a year. Driving lessons vary depending on area but here its about £25 per hour. Sounds good?? Take off the petrol, say £5.00,per lesson, factor in insurance, and wear and tear, and servicing and maintainance costs say £1.50,and your talking £18.50 per hour, before Tax.

As someone said they have to advertise constantly, and offer package deals to attract custom,so competition is clearly fierce. Theres more adds for becoming an instructor on TV than actually offering Driving Lessons, so theres more money in teaching someone to be one, than there is in doing the job.


Incidentally £18.50 per hour for the lessons that actually take place. So you'd have to be fully booked for the year to make it even half appealing, and importantly a large % of 17/18 year old's are apparently very prone to ringing up and cancelling a lesson ,at short notice,cos theyve got a little sniffle / cant be arsed.

Me decided, clearly not worth persuing given cost of training V potential earnings.

Londoner

Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2009, 07:56:25 am »
There is a driving school round here with £19 Per Hour  in big letters down the side or the car.

Says it all really

EZclean

  • Posts: 857
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2009, 08:11:41 am »
i have a customer who is a driving instructor, really nice guy. he has a high pass rate. he says bill plant wants shooting. when fuel and insurance is always rising how can anyone work so cheap, and then still be able to pay the franchise.

 
EZclean - Cleaner Than Water

Scrimble

  • Posts: 2052
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2009, 02:37:05 pm »
when i started to learn to drive 8 years ago the instructor charged £18 per 50 minutes, now theres 5 hours for £56!

 the influx of driving instructors has obviously brought competition and lowered prices.

sod being a driving instrutor, wc is far better earning wise

Pureandclean

  • Posts: 355
Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2009, 09:15:27 pm »
Some companies rates were for 30 minute lessons, and others would have 2 students in the car at the same time.

dave.e

Re: window cleaner or driving instructor ?
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2009, 09:26:43 pm »
window cleaning will end up like driving instructors there will be that many soon the prices will come down and we will all be scraping in the street for custies ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D