[EZclean]

wont hold full charge under load. it's ok in the morning when on charge overnight. but after a few hours work, about 3-4hrs it's really struggling.
bought it in January from Pure Freedom. and thought i would have had more than 10-11months out of it.
tested it last night with a multimeter on the terminals while pump was running and it went down to 10.3v.

do you think 10-11mths is about right or should i ring pure freedom up and get a new one.

[Robin Ray]

People seldom get more than 12months from a battery. However 28Ah sounds a small battery unless you are running a trolley.

[EZclean]

it was running a trolley, now turned into a van mount.

surely it should last longer than 12months, or are they based on number of charge cycles?

my pump only draws 2amp max (FL2002A) so its not power hungry.

[wizard]

Phone its not good value it last a least a year it sound like faulty plates in battery

[matt]

imho 10-11mths for a 28Ah isnt that bad

thats why i use a old car battery , they just dont last with the amount of hammering we give them

[ftp]

Pretty good to get a small battery like that to last so long. My 85ah never got passed nine months. Guaranteed for three years too - guess what? The shop can find nothing wrong with it............ yeah right!  :

Car batteries for me these days, get the biggest you can afford.

[AuRavelling79]

it was running a trolley, now turned into a van mount.

surely it should last longer than 12months, or are they based on number of charge cycles?

my pump only draws 2amp max (FL2002A) so its not power hungry.

How long did it last originally? I thought 100psi pumps took about 6 amps but I might be dreaming on that one!

[ftp]

I think it's the number of charging cycles that stuffs them in the end.

[clean]

Right this is no bull,i have been using a 28 ah gel filled battery for "FIVE YEARS" used every day and never ever had any problems, now theres one for the record 

[Ian Lancaster]

I have a Flojet 60psi in my van that came out of an Omnitrolley.  The plate on the pump says it draws about 7 amps, so a fully charged 28ah battery in good condition should last 4 hours from full to flat.

I doubt a pump powerful enough for our use would operate on only 2amp.

[AuRavelling79]

I remember now - when I started with a trolley I had a 28 a/h with my system from Peter Fogwill and it would last about 4/5 hrs with a 60psi pump and then after about 10 months it died (fell to about 2 hours).

That's when I got an 85 a/h and had a bigger tank in my estate car.

[dd]

Get an 85amp leisure battery and keep a spare to swap. The key to making them last iis to keep them well charged. If the battery is regularly drained this will shorten its life.

[EZclean]

it was running a trolley, now turned into a van mount.

surely it should last longer than 12months, or are they based on number of charge cycles?

my pump only draws 2amp max (FL2002A) so its not power hungry.

How long did it last originally? I thought 100psi pumps took about 6 amps but I might be dreaming on that one!

i changed from 100psi shurflo and they do draw 7ah at max flow. even then when on the trolley it would last at least 2days working time. maybe getting through 250-300ltr/day with the tolley.
now van mount it's 500ish a day but the small piston pump i use which is the same as this: http://www.johnhewitt.com/wc.htm  2.6a/4.0ltrs/min.
so basic maths says if its using less than half the draw then it should be able to pump twice as long. 

the battery has been well looked after too, by that i mean with the intelligent charger it came with its always topped up. and usally this is every night unless i forget and leave it in the van, but since its losing power it always has to been charged every night.

maybe i'm just being a tight wad, but i would think like the post above they should last more than a year, maybe not 3yrs like Boogie's but deffo 12-18mths.

it's designed to run a golf trolley for 36holes.
 
i've just googled golf batteries and it seems the 'normal' range of charge cycles is between 300-350. for 28a/h. so i s'pose that could be anywhere from a minimum of 12-18mths.

[EZclean]

I have a Flojet 60psi in my van that came out of an Omnitrolley.  The plate on the pump says it draws about 7 amps, so a fully charged 28ah battery in good condition should last 4 hours from full to flat.

I doubt a pump powerful enough for our use would operate on only 2amp.

I think we may have the same pump Ian with yours coming from the TSR35: (scroll down to the FL2202)
its actually 2.6amps max
http://www.johnhewitt.com/pumps.htm

[ftp]

Ian where's that link you put up all about batteries a little while ago on 'tother forum?

All about the different types of batteries and how they weren't really worth the money 'cos they are all basically the same.

[EZclean]

could do with someone who has a pure freedom trolley. and see how long they have been running the battery with the higher draw of the Shurfl 100psi.
will be interesting if anyone has one for longer than 12months with the same battery.

[Window Washers]

it was running a trolley, now turned into a van mount.

surely it should last longer than 12months, or are they based on number of charge cycles?

my pump only draws 2amp max (FL2002A) so its not power hungry.

How long did it last originally? I thought 100psi pumps took about 6 amps but I might be dreaming on that one!

i changed from 100psi shurflo and they do draw 7ah at max flow. even then when on the trolley it would last at least 2days working time. maybe getting through 250-300ltr/day with the tolley.
now van mount it's 500ish a day but the small piston pump i use which is the same as this: http://www.johnhewitt.com/wc.htm  2.6a/4.0ltrs/min.
so basic maths says if its using less than half the draw then it should be able to pump twice as long. 

the battery has been well looked after too, by that i mean with the intelligent charger it came with its always topped up. and usally this is every night unless i forget and leave it in the van, but since its losing power it always has to been charged every night.

maybe i'm just being a tight wad, but i would think like the post above they should last more than a year, maybe not 3yrs like Boogie's but deffo 12-18mths.

it's designed to run a golf trolley for 36holes.
 
i've just googled golf batteries and it seems the 'normal' range of charge cycles is between 300-350. for 28a/h. so i s'pose that could be anywhere from a minimum of 12-18mths.

reading this, it sounds as if you are letting the battery run or did let it run for 2 days befpre charging it, I have a 110ah battery and it is charged every other day and have lasted long enough and still goes, they do not like being run flat, which it sounds like you have done on more that one time. If I am wrong please correct me.


a trolley battery is not made for a van mount you need a bigger battery, and to call freedom and complain if giving all the detail you have here, you have used the battery in a way it was not intended to be used, so would be your own fault.

Dont shoot me only saying what I think from reading the posts.

[EZclean]

no probs windowwashers, i welcome your thoughts.

is it not what these are designed to do though, got this off a golf website:

Battery Maintenance

A golf trolley requires a ‘deep cycle golf battery’. The term ‘deep cycle,’ put simply, means a battery that is designed to store a lot of energy, which can be drained and then recharged over and over again.

In contrast, a starting battery, which is used in a car, is designed to deliver a quick burst of energy, but never become very drained, as it is continually charged up by the car’s alternator. It is very important to only use a deep cycle battery on your trolley with the correct type of charger as a car charger will shorten your golf trolley battery's life very considerably.

The life of your battery will depend on how you treat / maintain your battery :-

•When your battery arrives from ProTrolley.com it may not be fully charged, we do advise that you immediately give it a top up charge for a few hours before you use it on the trolley
•Only use the correct charger which was supplied by ProTrolley or one specifically designed for deep cycle GEL/AGM batteries. It must say that it is a two or three stage (step) charger. That is because there must be a very low maintenance charge to keep your battery in peak condition.
•Do not leave your battery in a discharged state; always put it on charge immediately after your round of golf. Please do not leave it on the maintenance charge for very long periods over the winter without use
•Do not store your battery in ‘extreme’ conditions, either very cold or very hot.
•Every four or five rounds check that your golf trolley battery is in good working order, check the terminals are tight and clean.

doesn't say anything how they dont like to be run flat, and most of these golf trolleys run 200w motors and a gearbox/clutch unit, and can do 10mph.
surely a 2.6amp pump run for 5-6 hrs working time should be good with a 28a/h battery with room to spare.
the 35ltr trolleys use 17a/h battery and so does this pump box:

http://www.johnhewitt.com/batteries.htm

i'm gonna ring them tommorow and see what they say, because it certainly hasn't had anywhere near 300 charges.