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Steve Chapman

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deodoriser syringe
« on: June 14, 2009, 08:40:09 pm »
Just as a matter of interest does anyone use a syringe to inject deodoriser into carpets (or other places ) that have pet odour problems.

Have not tried it myself, but just wonder whether its  more effective than treating the surface area, and whether there are any downfalls with it.

I've not seen it advertised here but in the states, and not heard it mentioned on the forum.

regards
steve

Re: deodoriser syringe
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2009, 08:52:07 pm »
I have done it with Solubac to counter a cat pee problem, but then this problem was isolated to one area.
How you would deodorize a complete carpet without puncturing every 3 square inches to get some even effect would be beyond me, unless there's a machine to do it.

robert meldrum

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Re: deodoriser syringe
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2009, 09:44:23 pm »
Ozone machine perhaps ?

Jim_77

Re: deodoriser syringe
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 02:00:33 am »
How can an airborne treatment get 2" into an upholstery filling?

As Neil says, injection is impractical over a whole carpet but when has anyone/anything peed/vomited on an entire carpet?  It's normally used for spot treatment.

I use a syringe to inject solutions into carpet backings and upholstery wadding/cushions.  In recent months using this method I've:

- Fixed a horrible tom-cat piddle problem on an armchair
- Saved a west highland terrier from being drowned in a bin liner (after he peed up the corner of a brand new carpet - his owner was furious!)
- Spared an airedale from being banished from the house after he vomited on a very expensive sofa (it soaked through a seat cushion and down into the wadding under the bench)
- Smoothed out a row between friends after one of them fell asleep drunk on the other's sofa after a Saturday night out and wet himself!

I've used different products depending on the problem, but they include several from solutions such as mpower, natural odour neutraliser, freshguard and bio green.  I've also used a couple of other sanitisers and deodorisers.

You have to think what's going on where you can't see.  You need to counter-act the volume of problem with the right volume of solution.  For example, in a sofa cushion that's been vomited on, I'll use a 10cc syringe to inject solution deep into the cushion filling.  I've put up to 500ml into a cushion!  You just have to tell the customer it's going to be unusable for a couple of days and give it a week until they decide if the problem is fixed.

The only downfall, as with any odour removal job, is you just don't know if you're going to be able to 100% fix it.  I'll normally quote to allow one "free" re-visit if the problem still exists, but make it clear that after a re-visit it might be unfixable and further visits will be chargeable.

Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: deodoriser syringe
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 08:17:37 am »
Jim

I employ that technique for charging-sure cuts down on spurious call-backs. After all you can't see an odour and as soon as you attempt to deal with it you loose the underlying odour.

Of course, the fact that your nose has a "memory" doesn't help and we have to educate our customers about this.

Where do you get your syringes and needles from as I always assumed that they were controlled items?
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

robert meldrum

  • Posts: 1984
Re: deodoriser syringe
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 08:30:46 am »
I have done it with Solubac to counter a cat pee problem, but then this problem was isolated to one area.
How you would deodorize a complete carpet without puncturing every 3 square inches to get some even effect would be beyond me, unless there's a machine to do it.
Jim

Response was to this post .........as you're aware there have been ozone producing extraction machines for about 10 years and they're still being sold so I'd presume they work !


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Jim_77

Re: deodoriser syringe
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2009, 12:53:25 am »
Roger - syringes (just the main bit, not the needles) are widely available, i know solutions sell them and probably a few other suppliers.  I have a few hypodermic needles that were liberated from the NHS many years ago.  All you need is a contact in some sort of health profession to get you a few, they cost pence so it's not like you're stealing a life support machine.

Robert - ozone has been used to great effect for some time, for smoke restoration on hard surfaces in particular. Yes in theory you can use it to get deeper into soft furnishings but to be honest I wouldn't go anywhere near the method if it was used to that extent, there's too many health risks.

murky

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Re: deodoriser syringe
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 10:06:37 am »
I use a hyperdermic as Jim says. I got mine from a Vets.

The needles are big enough to go in a horse and are big enough not to be lost unlike the human ones which are very fine and easily lost.

Murky

Joe H

Re: deodoriser syringe
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009, 10:36:04 am »
Some printer ink cartridges are refillable.
With a kit you normally get a syringe to assist with the filling of the cartridge (suppossed to help stop you getting ink up to your elbows - but I still manage to do so!)
The needle - It is very blunt and therefore may or may not work getting thro a carpet backing - not tried it.
Just a thought.