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Washers

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Hell of a job for newbie.
« on: June 15, 2009, 10:35:01 am »
Tackled my first job this weekend that the wife got me through a business friend.
Neither of us had seen it and she wanted doing ASAP, so just turned up on spec as it was some distance from home, and what a shocker.

A great two floor mansion with  25 windows most of these each had 20 panels (7" x 9" approx) grubby as hell and even worse on the inside of them.

 My initial problems.
1) Getting the ladder up to the high windows ( 3 section 3.5m at about 80% of it's range) just about managed it with a stand off with wheels, but how do you manipulate the ladder from window to window? Joggle it across bit by bit or drop the ladder and re-erect? With the standoff on it becomes quite heavy and unwieldly even down at 3.5m, but I guess this comes with experience?

2) Being able to tell what marks are on the inside and what are on the outside after cleaning them ( I was only doing the outsides)? I ended up doing most of them twice and afterwards it was difficult to tell that they had been cleaned. Which is very dissapointing for both me and the customer.

3) Because the panels were so small I was on my 6" squeegie but was picking white paint up from the grubby wooden framework  and then this was marking the windows thus  I had to clean them again.

4) Using a 6" squeegee doing two passes in such a small panel what is the knack for not leaving a streak as there is less room to manoeuvre compared to doing large windows with a large squeegee
, bearing in mind that there were 20 panels per window.

All comments greatly appreciated.

5) Pricing, initially I adopted  about £3 per window knowing that I was going to be slow being a newbie so put this down to experience and the uphill learning curve. Does this sound about fair?

mlscontractcleaner

  • Posts: 1483
Re: Hell of a job for newbie.
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 01:03:56 pm »
Wow I thought I was cheap; each window must have taken you a while, inside and out. £75 for what amounts to 50 windows each with lots of little panes in  ??? ??? ???

How long were you there ???

To be honest I'd have charged more than that and we use wfp .......... just on the outsides mind ;)

But, as I've said on here before, you charge whatever you're happy with. Maybe next time you'll charge a bit more, who am I to say?

But personally I'd have definately charged a bit more.

Is it going to be a regular job now; at least that would be something as it'll be a lot easier now :)
Come and talk dirty to us!!!

Washers

  • Posts: 24
Re: Hell of a job for newbie.
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 03:07:11 pm »
I was there for 9 hours all in all as they had a ruddy great conservatory as well.
Needless to say I did'nt manage to get it all done but they do want me back to do some more.
I guess they probably want the windows done on a quarterely are bi-annual basis.

Incidentally I just done the outsides this was the big downer because the insides were dirtier than the outsides and it therefore did'nt look like they had been done at all.

I am chalking this one down to experience being a newcomer an all and would give a price in advance next time.

If you do contracts by WFP how do you do the insides? Traditional methods or don't quote for this?

SherwoodCleaningSe

  • Posts: 2368
Re: Hell of a job for newbie.
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 04:17:20 pm »
I'd say the pricing is about right for regular cleans, maybe could be a little higher. However for first time cleans your looking to double the price.  As for blading the panes I would start on one side of the window keeping one end of the squeegee in contact with the edge of the window at all times and finish on the side you started, so you go in a circle motion if that makes sense. Using that technique you shouldn't leave any marks behind.

If these windows are sash you can do them from the inside and therefor don't have to out stretch your ladders.

Simon.