[Fieldsy]

Could someone please explain the meaning of the following with gardiners brushes, flocked, single trim and dual trim. They are all the same price, but really not sure of the differences and what you guys would buy/prefer to use.

Thanks

Fieldsy

[elite mike]

i use the single trim for maintenance cleans

flocked has a better scrubbing power

never used dual trim, but tomo rates them very highly

[Window Washers]

flocked has the end of the fibers crushed/split to give better scrubbing power

single trim is a the same size fibers

duel trim has the inside cut down about half inch making the inside a little stiffer.

I can do some pics later to show you if you like as I have 2 brushes from them a single mono and a flocked duel trim

Ian

[lee_dewing]

just to add to mike and ian's post.

single trim or mono filament:  bristles all same length and supposedly less chance of spotting as bristles are not meant to trap dirt within themselves.

flocked bristle brushes were designed originally for cleaning viechles, the ends of bristles are softer so wont scratch body work on a car.

not really designed for cleaning windows but will just rinse well, but some say bristles will trap dirt, more chance of spotting.

Double trim brushes have longer bristles on outside and shorter in middle,
this design allows you to rinse on the glass.
Up and down over glass then finish with side to side motion down pane;
instead of lift and rinse, quicker and saving a bit of water also i'd imagine.

I've tried all and at moment i am happiest with vikan hi-lo mono-filament(red bristle) sill brush

but i am intrested in alex gardiners sl brush (think it's called) superlite double trim brush, not been impressed with double trims in past but heard good things about this one.

Alex is i think working on a superlite sill brush have heard
wonderer i this is single or double trim

thanks lee

[Fieldsy]

Thanks so much for your input and explanations fellas. I've also just done a big search on the forum to get some ideas. Obviously most of our customers have had good cleans by trade by us, so will not need a lot of cleaning.......hopefully..lol.

The general opinion seems to be, flocked is for first cleans/heavy soiled windows and rinse off from glass, and single and dual are a matter of preference and rinse on glass. As we are trade and will probs be cleaning bottoms with trade, my thoughts are that any first clean or dirty tops can be done by trade and then any subsequent cleans can be done with our shiny new back pack....lol. With that in mind, my initial feeling is to get the dual trim.

I think that makes sense................sort of  : :  lol


I'm also opting for gardiners dual trim and a 21ft x-tel pole, as I am just progressing into wfp and have already posted a thread on what I require.....and this was the final decision to make. Have managed to sort everything for just under £400, so looking forward to another new experience........................or not as the case may be...lol :


thanks again

Fieldsy

[Clive McDonald]

fieldsy.
this is just my opinion- and not one shared by most- the biggest mistake i see by starters/old hands is a reluctance to spend money.You will have to spend, and a lot more than £400, but don't worry about it.

Honestly, don't worry.

[lee_dewing]

good luck fieldsy.

Doing a good job trad and not cutting corners really cut down teething probs when switching to wfp.

While your still up there on ladders giive the top of frames a good clean and gaps in between fanlights,

basically any of the horizontal frame work harbouring dirt as when this is cleaned wfp and not all removed will run and dry onto glass causing spots

On bad, new cleans i go round twice; clean all frames till water runs clean, once been all round come back to start window as stopped dripping then do glass.

I'm pretty confident now and unless really bad just do window frame and glass in one and explain there may be some spotting as yet been o.k

Lee

[lee_dewing]

just read slumpbusters post.

I spent guesstimate around £1200

but was worth it.

[Fieldsy]

again, everyone thanks for the input.

Nice tips Lee, we do clean the sills and "rogue" drips around the frames, but cleaning everything above and between will be a big advantage going to wfp.

We are only looking at a backpack system at the moment......so I thought around £400 is a pretty reasonable amount to be paying....not cheap, not excessive.

The reason we are looking at budget is that at the moment it will be a testing period. I'm sure we will love it and find it so much easier, but at the moment expenses won't stretch to that sort of money, so a basic starting system is what we are after, as we do have customers who are adamant they do not want water everywhere. For these customers, which are few I honestly don't mind the ladder as the houses are relatively easy. We have a good paying round at the moment and looking for another, and in time moving "maybe" permanently to wfp will enable us to work faster and collect more work.   


Thanks again

Fieldsy