[john rees]

just seen this today.... didn't expect this figures to be quite this drastic though..... hope this link works
http://www.cleanfax.com/news.asp?mode=4&N_ID=54449
     

[ian richards]

That is a bit drastic Good news for TM users though    

[john rees]

I wonder what the LM system results would be like? : glad I use TM's
                  john

[Mark Roberts]

So all they have done is test a TM agaist -

"Rental unit" machines i.e vax type etc

Machines purchased by consumers (small, inexpensive machines typically found in department stores)  - i.e wet vacs.

The only thing of remote interest was the wand test, of which they gave no results or manufacture name.

Im just off to do a similar test - a ferrari agaist a reliant robin, I wonder which will cause more resoiling in the trousers... hmmmm

A big waste of time then.

Mark

[Len Gribble]

Mark

If were driving both I would think!

Len

[Ian Rochester]

I agree, this proves absolutly NOTHING, the report omits more than it tells.  For factual information they need to disclose what machines were being tested and against what, maybe they did test against other industry porty machines, such as the Eclipse, but found that the results were not to their liking, so omitted them from the report!!!  Perhaps some portys extracted 95% of soil.

What are we supposed to glean from the report on wands, spend your money on 7 different ones before you find the right one??

[therapist]

Apart from the cost of T/M's the only thing I have against them is the lack of flexibility.

I recently cleaned 6 retail stores and not one of these could be reached with a T/M this has nothing to do with their performance. We all know the advantage of POWER seek the maximum possible in machines which are also portable.

There is no absolute best in system or method and it would be foolish to claim that  " My t/m will outperform your little portable ' It probably will, in terms of outright power, power isn't everything and I still contend that a powerfull portable with good tools is the equal of a t/m IN THE RIGHT HANDS but then I don't have a t/m nor do I wish one.

Show me the result of a t/m against modern  powerful portables with 400  -   1000 psi and CFR type tools.

r m


Depends whose operating it and what the jo probably will

[john rees]

I think a lot of people are missing the point here! it seems to me that shaws are trying to find a system that will show exactly how clean a carpet is after cleaning as opposed to manufacturers of truckmounts or portables making the claims as to how much better than other manufacturers their machines are??I will keep an eye on the shaw industries site to see if it actually gives more details!I'm sure eclipse users woudn't say that the equipment they use is the same as a vax? bit like comparing a robin reliant with a ferrari wouldn't they say? I have 3 portables and 2 tm's and I know which ones I would prefer to clean my own carpets!! I've never used an eclipse though!because they are high power can they be used with 2 wands at the same time as my TM's do

[paul@ctcs]

Just done a test and my Eclipse removes more than 91%

Paul

[john rees]

just done the same test with my TM, flat out reving its guts out, full heat and removed 91% of the carpet