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Andy Foster

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Decking paint removal
« on: March 13, 2009, 04:49:48 pm »
Hi there

Has anyone any advice on removing the paint from some decking.  The customer has bought the house and doesn't like the dark paint that has been applied, wants me to strip it back to natural colour then re treat.

Cheers

Andy

drive surgeon

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2009, 05:26:02 pm »
try rog andy he is the decking man!! ;)

mark.laycock1@ntlw

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2009, 05:31:47 pm »
hi andy, have you any photos of the decking?
mark

Andy Foster

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2009, 05:34:37 pm »
Hi Mark

I don't have photos I'm afraid (didn't think about it until on my way home!)
The coating looks like brown paint and is definately not a stain so will need to remove the coating as eco frindly as possible (she has pets).

Any thoughts?

Andy

trevor perry

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2009, 05:41:12 pm »
i think you will need to paint with a strong paint stripper[not very eco friendly i know] leave to dwell for 10 minutes and then wash off, when washing use as low a pressure as possible as it would be very easy to damage the decking by digging in, you may have to reapply and repeat process, hot water will move it better but i think chemical will deffinately have to be used as high pressure will damage the decking.
 if i was you i would offer to do a sample before committing to give price.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Andy Foster

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2009, 05:45:29 pm »
Thanks Trevor

Roger Oakley

Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2009, 07:12:30 pm »
Andy,
Give me a call Sunday during the day if you want.
Working all day tomorrow so won't be able to get to the phone.
Do you know what is on the deck, what make of paint Ronseal Thompsons etc
Ridged or flat decking and any idea of the wood soft or hard.
Sorry for so many questions but the more info I have, the better I'll be able to help.

Andy Foster

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2009, 07:15:31 pm »
Hi Roger

She inherited the decking already painted so no idea of make I'm afraid.
It is ridged decking and as far as I can tell it is the normal softwood that has been pressure treated.

Thanks
Andy

mark.laycock1@ntlw

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2009, 09:51:10 pm »
hi andy,couldnt you sheet up around it and use paint stripper? or will it pressue wash off ? or will sand blasting do it ? these are just thoughts
mark

Andy Foster

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2009, 10:11:34 pm »
Hi Mark

Paint srtipper is almost a definite, but which one is the question as the custy has pets and it isn't good to be washing some of them into the soil.
I have steam which will help the paint stripper do its job but I didn't really want to sandblast as it would affect the finish of the wood.
I sometimes wish I didn't care so much about the ethics of the methods I use as I could just use a nasty stripper and get the job done and paid super quick.

Damn my conscience!!!

trevor perry

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2009, 12:33:47 pm »
andy if yoy try graffittihotline im sure they do a paint remover that is very strong but also enviromentally friendly, deffinately worth giving them a ring as i have found all their products really good.
 their website is www.graffitihotline.co.uk
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Roger Oakley

Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2009, 06:01:20 pm »
Andy
Offer still stands to call me tomorrow say mid-day?

Andy Foster

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2009, 06:21:51 pm »
Trevor, thanks for the web address, I'll check it out.

Roger, thanks again, will call you tomorrow.

Andy

Roger Oakley

Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2009, 09:24:49 pm »
Andy,
Was info any help?

Griffus

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2009, 09:35:50 pm »
Roger, I have just emailed you.

Best regards

Ian Griffiths

Andy Foster

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2009, 11:37:30 pm »
Andy,
Was info any help?

Thanks so much for your time Roger.
I have yet to go and see the customer so will let you know how I get on.

Andy

stalwart

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Re: Decking paint removal
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2009, 03:28:35 pm »
Hi,there,new chap in the house just joined up,i run a high pressure cleaning business down here in sussex been going a few yrs now and have gained a lot of experience during this time,and one of the biggest pains is cleaning decking,tbh i sometimes price it so high i dont really want it,but if you dont mind i'd like to share a few tips with you.
1st of all you say its been painted,ask yourself what type of paint(oil or water based)if its oil based then you may stand a good chance of getting it off,BUT and i mean BUT,theres a lot of problems your'll come across 1 of em is the stripper,for most paint removal and finding a good one is its cost i use paramose FS10 you can only get it in 20lt tubs and that'll set you back £120 it is lethal in its form but does break down with water and is bio friendly you need to read the fact sheet on it then again theres other stuff but i wont bore you with them.

With water/acrylic based paint you've more work on your hands because this penitrates the wood even more just like a stain and trust me your decking might look worse than it was before mainly because without getting the nozzel up close you run the risk of lifting the top fibers of the wood then my friend your in a world of hurt,this depends on the quality of the decking,pre-treated is different to pressure treated i'll let you do your own homework on that.

The other pain with paint on decking,look where the decking is,bet you any money 9 outa 10 its right slap bang near the lawn,think,all that loose paint stuck in the grass is a pain in the a**e to it get out best get your mower out with a grass collection box or a leaf vacume  if it goes onto any hard surface ie slabs or concrete wash it away dont try and sweep it up it'll be like wet sand,impossible,your'll have to wait till its gone bone dry,like dust

With the actual cleaning useing a pressure washer couple of things you got to bear in mind,STRIPING you must keep that nozzel head the same even distance from the decking through out if you dont you'll get a different cleaning pattern and you may have to go over it again when that happens light and dark areas of cleaning will happen this is so time consuming,of course you could go out and buy yourself a flat surface cleaning if shes willing to pay for one(£100-£700) but you still end up using a fan nozzel to get the places this wont do,ie the edges,and whatever you do DONT USE A TURBO NOZZEL,you'll rip the top of the decking to bits

OK,to sum up for paint your'll need a good stripper,low pressure but useing hot water,bit of discipline take your time,as for stained decking forget it it'll never go back to what it was like the day it was layed

After all this see if she'd like to have it a painted in a different color where all you need to do is clean off the dirt/grime/moss and recoat never know that price might work out better with less agro to

Blimey,1st post and i've gone on abit,anyway hope this helps you Andy and others

chris
Been there,seen it,done it,just cant remember when