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Pole 2 Pole

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Back to Basics
« on: May 16, 2009, 08:20:56 am »
Mornin all  ;) Just goin thru the usual flicking thru websites to buy buy buy more more more. Looking at gettin some more rectus 21 m and f connectors plus the clamps etc etc and i'm seriously scratching my head about going back to "decent" hozelock (probably brass) fittings. Much cheaper and able to buy spares from just about anywhere at the drop of a hat. What are ya thoughts? Hopefully the post may help others too.  ;)

LWC

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 08:24:01 am »
What hose do you use?

Window Washers

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2009, 08:24:53 am »
Mornin all  ;) Just goin thru the usual flicking thru websites to buy buy buy more more more. Looking at gettin some more rectus 21 m and f connectors plus the clamps etc etc and i'm seriously scratching my head about going back to "decent" hozelock (probably brass) fittings. Much cheaper and able to buy spares from just about anywhere at the drop of a hat. What are ya thoughts? Hopefully the post may help others too.  ;)
I hate hoselock can never seem to get them apart after a few times, the black and orange ones from gardiners and purefreedom I find better.

rectus fittings on pole and hose, but am thinking of pressurewashing fittings next just have to have a scout round for them first.
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Pole 2 Pole

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2009, 08:41:28 am »
What hose do you use?
using rectus 21's at the minute mate. Great in their own right. I just find changing them a pain in the rectus everytime hose splits, joints wear out, base caps need renewing etc etc. I never had that degree of hassle with hozelocks. Only dilemma i may have is the fact i got microbore so i guess i will need a few adapters along the way.

Dean Aspects

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2009, 08:48:20 am »
I use rectus fittings on my pole hose and like them
 
Can you get them in a larger size so i can replace the hoseloc fittings from the pump and DI vessel?
Or recommend anything else(with pics if possible)

Pole 2 Pole

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2009, 08:53:06 am »
Don't know for sure mate, but i reaaallllly don't think so.

Pole 2 Pole

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2009, 08:55:03 am »
Ok,let's put it like this.......does anyone "prefer" hozelock to rectus?  ;D

steve a

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2009, 09:03:43 am »
I use rectus type and do not use crimps or clamps, using the bypass system for water flow-pressure, you guys must be using too much pressure if you're needing to crimp the hose to the fitting.

Steve a.

Chris Cottrell

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 09:04:02 am »
Hozeloc are fine for most but they do wear pretty quick & they can be sort at almost any garden cntr/ hardware shop

I prefer Gardiners Pro fittings (these are also available from Pirtek ( Rectus 19 series))

Gardiners also have Ez-Snap fittings these are smaller but v.similar (these are also available from Pirtek ( Rectus 21 series))

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2009, 09:24:58 am »
All fittings will wear, talking to the Rectus rep recently and he could not believe the life cycle of our fittings. Up to 100 connections/disconnections a day, 5 days a week, 48 weeks a year. Dragging them along the ground, getting grit in them. He reckoned that window cleaning must be the toughest enviroment for any type of fitting.

Using some kind of connection protection (Protecta-Ball etc) on both sides of the fitting is a sure way to reduce problems and increase length of fitting life.

Hozelock fittings are just not reliable enough for professional use, I tried to use them for 2 years and they always led to problems.

Rectus fittings are great, but are still prone to wear. Make sure that if using Rectus fittings they are genuine as there are a lot of Chinese/Korean replicas on the market that are simply rubbish. They will collapse after just weeks of use.

We are constantly trialling new types of fittings and keep coming back to EZ-Snap (rectus) type fittings.

The Pro series fittings (19) are also very good, but we tend to use these for non-pole type connections. Connecting tanks together, 1/2" hose to professional hose reels etc. We are selling more of the high-end hose reels now and these have 1/2" female ports which the Pro series screw into and allow reliable, leak free, robust connections to.


JSMC

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 11:10:55 am »
rectus i have on mines which i got from PF. where else sells these things?

Window Washers

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 11:52:58 am »
rectus i have on mines which i got from PF. where else sells these things?
the man above your post  ;)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Pittmonkey

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2009, 12:42:10 pm »
Is there a better way to connect your Hose Reel to the water outlet. I currently use the hoselok for this anything better?
'Success is buried in the garden of failure'

Pureandclean

  • Posts: 355
Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2009, 01:32:45 pm »
We use both, as we run a microbore hose reel and a tricoflex hose reel off the same pump. The fittings from Gardiners for the microbore do last much longer, but replacing the hozelok fittings are easy.
We do find the flow controls for the microbore very awkward, as the valve numpty only has a small screw fastening it in, and often comes out whilst being dragged along the ground.
 So we take them off and leave the valve half open, as we use a bypass system to the tank which releaves the pressure on the pump.
 At some tme we will try one of these triggers that are becoming available, saving water will be a benefit, but stopping flow valves snagging on everything would be the main reason. The other problem was having to bend down and grab the valve to turn it off.
 We have over the years had problems with the pressure switches wearing out on the sureflow pumps, and had been spending quite a bit on replacing these switches, but had to wait quite a while as supplier was out of stock. So I bypassed this switch and left the pump running whilst having a return pipe to the tank with a spray attachment fitted to enable us to control the flow back into the tank. Doing this, I haven't even bothered to replace the pressure switch now I have one.

R W C

Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2009, 02:20:31 pm »
All fittings will wear, talking to the Rectus rep recently and he could not believe the life cycle of our fittings. Up to 100 connections/disconnections a day, 5 days a week, 48 weeks a year. Dragging them along the ground, getting grit in them. He reckoned that window cleaning must be the toughest enviroment for any type of fitting.

Using some kind of connection protection (Protecta-Ball etc) on both sides of the fitting is a sure way to reduce problems and increase length of fitting life.

Hozelock fittings are just not reliable enough for professional use, I tried to use them for 2 years and they always led to problems.

Rectus fittings are great, but are still prone to wear. Make sure that if using Rectus fittings they are genuine as there are a lot of Chinese/Korean replicas on the market that are simply rubbish. They will collapse after just weeks of use.

We are constantly trialling new types of fittings and keep coming back to EZ-Snap (rectus) type fittings.

The Pro series fittings (19) are also very good, but we tend to use these for non-pole type connections. Connecting tanks together, 1/2" hose to professional hose reels etc. We are selling more of the high-end hose reels now and these have 1/2" female ports which the Pro series screw into and allow reliable, leak free, robust connections to.



upto 100 connections a day, are you joking, I connect mine on the 1st job and probs dont disconnect it till the end of the last job unless i need to change pole but probs no more then 8 times.

Chris

Central Window Cleaners

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Re: Back to Basics
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2009, 02:44:26 pm »
Pureandclean, why are you spending lots on replacing pressure switches, the switch can be replace from Maplins for £1.50 and is very quick, and for the price I now keep a couple as spares in the van.