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poole bay

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ionics no waste
« on: January 09, 2009, 05:04:49 pm »
hi there thinking on buying the ionics eeco one, the one that has no waste water about 5 grand one of my mates said they are crap and dont work has any one got one of these or has any info on how it works and the running cost info would be great regards carl

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 05:07:30 pm »
Carl not many on here who are ionics fan including myself

You looked a t brodex system there the dogs danggles
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poole bay

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 05:14:58 pm »
yeah i have a brodex system im on a water meter :'( so need to start saving you have to flush mine for 6 / 8 hours a week and i think im wasting to much water and the bills are sky high so need to upgrade dont no any one with this new system that i want.

dd

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 05:29:05 pm »
In order to achieve zero waste you would be spending a lot of money on changing the filters. How many litres of water do you use in a week?

I am on a water meter and don't find the cost prohibitive. Do you fill from a static system? I think the 300gpd units have a waste ratio of 50-60% but production rate can be slow.

poole bay

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 05:42:30 pm »
use about 7,000 a week so the double that for the waste 21 ,000 a week or is it 14,000 a lot of water

NWH

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 05:44:44 pm »
The water has to go somewhere and in order for it to be cleaned it has to be filtered again and again before it`s clean therefore filter and resin muncher if you ask me,i`ve read on a forum before that someone was buying filters for those machines every 2 weeks when they first came out.

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 06:05:18 pm »
yeah i have a brodex system im on a water meter :'( so need to start saving you have to flush mine for 6 / 8 hours a week and i think im wasting to much water and the bills are sky high so need to upgrade dont no any one with this new system that i want.

Your flushing for 6/8 on your brodex bloody hell aint it a 15min flush process automatically when it full???
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NWH

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 06:07:07 pm »
What a waste of water,it would be cheaper to replace the RO every so often rather than have that on you water bill.

poole bay

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 06:14:49 pm »
well thats what brodex has told us to do, or for every 650ltrs 30 min flush back

NWH

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 06:19:10 pm »
Trying to protect there warranty on the RO if you ask me,you don`t need to flush that much no way it works out cheaper to replace the membranes.You only need to flush for 5 mins before each fill.

dd

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 06:20:15 pm »
Is that to do with the salt backwash. I have an automatic water softener on my static RO. With your level of production rate it would likely regenerate every day though.

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 06:36:05 pm »
well thats what brodex has told us to do, or for every 650ltrs 30 min flush back

Really i just looked in my brodex manual and says my system does the reccomended 15 flush after every full fill up automatically. Are you doing the manual flush Carl? by turning of the product and just letting the waste come through
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windowswashed

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 07:01:28 pm »
I would have thought Ionics Pro 6 with 20% waste would be more practical with running costs if on a water meter as filters would be so expensive to replace on zero reject system.

Mr H

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 07:45:03 pm »
Try asking Ionics how they get ZERO waste.........!!!! Saw there system at the Coventry show and it is ZERO waste IF YOU NEED IT....... Spoke to the "salesman" there and found out they do it by just sending the water through a DI unit...... Thats it........ Its just a system that has an RO and a DI unit where the waste wateris sent through the DI when you want zero waste....... So yes its zero waste but very expensive if your in a hardwater area......
You can NOT get an RO system that is truely zero waste.
If you want a fast producing RO system for a fraction of that price then speak to the RO-man first.
If there was an RO only zero waste system out there then I expect we would all be buying it.

Regards
Mr H


poole bay

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 10:02:01 pm »
yeah i do a back wash by turning the dial round i think i might give r/o man a ring see what he says thank lads the info on this one for me was great cheers

cherubs cleaning

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2009, 10:23:50 pm »
ther is no such thing as waste water

it all goes around and around (a bit lost in heat)

it is unlucky you r on a metre




jerry

NWH

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2009, 10:26:16 pm »
Try asking Ionics how they get ZERO waste.........!!!! Saw there system at the Coventry show and it is ZERO waste IF YOU NEED IT....... Spoke to the "salesman" there and found out they do it by just sending the water through a DI unit...... Thats it........ Its just a system that has an RO and a DI unit where the waste wateris sent through the DI when you want zero waste....... So yes its zero waste but very expensive if your in a hardwater area......
You can NOT get an RO system that is truely zero waste.
If you want a fast producing RO system for a fraction of that price then speak to the RO-man first.
If there was an RO only zero waste system out there then I expect we would all be buying it.

Regards
Mr H


That`s obvious that they do that why do you think they munch through resin,the bloke i spoke to on another forum said that the resin cartidges didn`t last 5 mins.He was buying resin cartridges at an alarming rate,at 1 point he was using 1 every few weeks or so not my words his.

Small but perfectley formed

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Re: ionics no waste
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2009, 12:32:04 pm »
Try a filta pure 5 very little waste and up to 9 litres a minute of pure, i have one and get  least 6 litres a minute may be this could reduce the amount of waste.
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