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groundhog

  • Posts: 1806
Re: employing 2
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2008, 08:02:36 pm »
always
ONE MAN PER VAN

Depends on the men!! Two men working effectively as a team, and who can motivate each other will get far more work done in a day, compared with two men in seperate vans working alone! I know this because I occaissionally have my brother working with me, and we work very well together and really motivate one another to keep going, and I take much more than double of what I would do alone!! I just wish that I could persuade him to work with me full time!!!  :)

cherubs cleaning

  • Posts: 724
Re: employing 2
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2008, 08:22:26 pm »
2 men one van




jerry

gary evans

  • Posts: 1242
Re: employing 2
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2008, 07:53:04 am »
Hi All

Thanks for some of them comments, it seems both ways is best for who ever. I usually have 2, but, with current climate & lack of work was looking at selling van. My van is very good & very cheap for whats included, if, i sell then pick up work it would cost £10k + vat to replace with similar.

I am tightening where i can & if van does not sell will set it up as 1 man operated. I currently only do about 10 houses, & feel this is where to go for work as the commercial is getting ridiculous. i know from my prices that domestics are double what we charge on commercial & feel i could offer a good service at the right price.

Gary

sageorgeta

Re: employing 2
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2008, 08:05:37 am »
Hi All

Thanks for some of them comments, it seems both ways is best for who ever. I usually have 2, but, with current climate & lack of work was looking at selling van. My van is very good & very cheap for whats included, if, i sell then pick up work it would cost £10k + vat to replace with similar.

I am tightening where i can & if van does not sell will set it up as 1 man operated. I currently only do about 10 houses, & feel this is where to go for work as the commercial is getting ridiculous. i know from my prices that domestics are double what we charge on commercial & feel i could offer a good service at the right price.

Gary

Not trying to be funny here Gary...but you say that your domestic prices are twice that what you charge on commercials (i presume you mean an hourly rate)....so why do you do commercials only (except 10 house) ???
I have seen many wc's think that commercial is the way to go,and i do believe that the correct commercial work can be lucrative,but if you struggle to get work at a good price (and commercial at half the price of domestics is struggling in my eyes) then why do it.
As i say i am not trying to make a mokery of your business,just an honest question.
 :)

gary evans

  • Posts: 1242
Re: employing 2
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2008, 07:00:36 am »
I know the average commercial metre is from 30p to 60p dependant on  frequency. I do large properties where this is worked out. For example i have 1 job which is 4ft sq windows with top opener & these work out at 25p.

I ahve spoke to & read on here of a £1 per window average on domestics, but, i,ve always done mainly commercial. I never stop for weather & dont have to collect, these were the things i hated when 1 stopped doing mainly houses about 8 to 9 years ago.

I love doing commercial  1 big job & that can be your day, we in early & finish early, no hassles.

But, reading the way other people run domestics on here i feel that they have very good business,s & will try to set mine up similar. The ones i have if they are not in i invoice them by post & this works well. There are other things also the way people do there,s which are also good 7 will be looking to implement.

I am not knocking commercial just pointing out what i see & read on here.

I recently priced up a large job at a realistic price a comb of 40 to 50p per window which came to £150, looking at previous comments on here of other peoples working out it would have been between £300 & £500. The actual job has gone to the lowest bid of £100.

I have many others i.e a school for £25.00 a massive job which would take a min of 4 men 2 days possibly longer went for £500.00 (ocs). a college 1 quoted £1200.00 which was even bigger than previous i was told that i was nearly double. Lokking at other peoples price structure it would have been£3k +

Gary