[Ricky M]

Pete , thats a foxy way of doing things 

Mark , test area sounds good , if you do a good job u should get the work if the bill payer is viewing

Good luck Fella , hope it s yours after all the thought your putting in

Ricky

[clinton]

Pete

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Some organisations ask for 3 quotes, you and 2 others, confuse the buyer by putting yours and a fake one in at a higher price then they'll have 4, they usually don't go for the bottom one but you have a 50-50 chance, just make sure that you know which quote they have picked.

Shaun

[JandS]

My price works out at £90 per hour??

John

[derek west]

chances are your dealing with the monkey, not the organ grinder. i did a big quote, gave her all the speel, even showed her the truckmount. she was well impressed, gave her the quote and she said, i'll run it by the management and see what they say. like she's gonna give them all my speel. all they see is the price. didn't get it @ £1.75 m2.
gutted.
derek

[clinton]

Mark

What system are you going to use mate

Good luck anyway

[Mr Dvae]

Ask them outright!

Who's done it before?

What did they charge?

Why are you looking for Someone else?

And what is your problem are the previous cleaner not coming upto standard or are you looking to save money?

When i go into a situation like this i want to know the answers as i'm not there to sell my services... i'm there to solve a problem that the customer has.

1/
I'm not a salesman selling my sevices i am a consultant and as a consultant my sales pitch is to turn their request into a problem for which i alone can solve for them.
2/
  Never fall into the trap of pricing for cleaning  every so many months, Price the first clean at what ever you like, followed by 2, 4, or 6 cleanes over the next so many months (depending on what they want) at a much lower price, you'll find that they will buy the first clean to get the reduced price maintenence package,
3/
 Don't tell them that you'll clean for them the carpets every say 6 months or   12 months at such and such a price as you hav'nt built in any price rises.
4/
 Email them when their next clean is due, allowing 4 weeks for them to           respond,Don't phone them with the reminder to be told it doesn't need cleaning yet, 'put a sell-by' date in the email informing them that after the 4 week period the price will return to the original higher price. Phone them on the 4th week if nec

To Some all this may seem like poppycock but it works for me. Take from it what you will using your own judgment and i hope you will secure many large commercial contracts in the years to come.

Wishing you a very happy Christmas

Dave

[M.Acorn]

H/W/E  And a sebo duo ! Have given him a list of options,one includes having it all done in one pop !  so would be getting 2 other c/cers involved,from a company i buy my chems from .There is going to be a huge amount of stock to be moved so best for all parties if it`s done over a few nights.Unless he is going to have a team f peeps there moving stuff !
It`s in the post so see what happens 

[clinton]

Sounds ike you have it organised mark.

Just remmember as you work on through the night you will start slowing down due to fatigued.

Just saying that as before i used my l m systems i used to do a car dealers in stockport with h w e and it was a hard job and used to start slowind down after midnight :

Good luck

[Jim_77]

Mark, your idea of productivity is way off mate.  Get real, you're tackling a mahooooosive job with a portable machine.

OK I'll say something that others will be afraid to......If you turn out the productivity you project, you will not be extracting the carpets anywhere near thoroughly enough!  You'll just be getting them wet.

I had a trained-up helper with me to extract 900m² of the same type of carpet in a school recently.  It took us 3 days, 8 hours a day.  You could fall on your arse big time here if you don't get realistic.
The money you could earn from this job could go a long way to buying a small truckmount off the back of it.  To seriously consider doing this amount of area with HWE in a restricted time, I'd reckon you'd be mad to attempt it with a portable.  Believe me, after that school job I wanted to die.

Is HWE really the best way to go?  What do they want?  An unseen benefit of "soil removal from deep down in the base of the pile" or do they want it to just "look better" ?

Think square peg, round hole.

My gut feeling is that unless they've been stung by a low-price bodger they won't really have any gauge for what is a proper carpet clean and what is a cosmetic quick-fix.

Your best way may be to bonnet it, with 2 or 3 machines going.  As mentioned already, always be thinking of future work, get a regular maintenance schedule proposal as well as your quote for the one-off job.

Sorry to be a bore but seriously don't under-estimate the time and effort that's going to be involved extracting this huge area with a portable!!

[murky]

Well said Jim.

You will certainly need a water boy to vac the carpet in front of you and keep filling the machine etc. Dont forget when YOU are filling or empting it that is lost productivity time.

Its a big site you will have to allow 5 or 10 minutes to go there and back each time and if its done in the evening it gets very very boring.

Doing loads of schools and I got fed up of there and back all the time with buckets of water so I took a mate with me in the end, then bought a TM. Ha.

Murky

[richy27]

Good point jim

[JandS]

Spot on Jim there.
The times work out the same as mine,you did 37.5 sq m an hour with a labourer
I grafted hard to do 30 sq m an hour on my own.
£3 a sq m is not out for that type of soiling.
Mark's price for the job is the same when converted from sq ft to sq m.

[Hilton]

Ditch the porty for this job it will kill you and the results will be dissapointing.

You need to clean as Jim has correctly stated using a low moisture pad system, on a low profile carpet such as this you will see good results with no wick back, essential if do not want any call backs and win any future work.

On a job of this size you need something like Charly pads which will clean a large area between rinses or DF.

You will need help with the vacuuming and spraying ahead of the clean, I would spray approx 10 sq mts at a time (no more)  to avoid drying out and misses.

Good Luck 

[M.Acorn]

Cheers for all the input guy`s ! got a couple of options going around at the mo,l/m system,hire machine from local machine place or possibly getting hold of a t/m ,but deffo will be having a helper and a hosepipe for filling up ,if i do go the h/w/e route.
Some of the carpet that is down is really clean ,there are lot`s of areas that are tucked away that don`t get much use,so hoping that will compensate.On the plan he gave me with the measurements,it was split into 3 sections,so assumed that last person did it in 3 visits,which would be my best option.Waiting for the call,if i do get it i will be going back in to talk to him and see which of the options he wants,i know i quoted about right,is there any set rule about going over original quote ? £  increase wise.

[brian willis]

you could use me and my machine max 470 tm £50 per hour 500 ft of hoses
how far away from exit is it

Bri

[clinton]

Agree with jim mark and i would go with the l m system