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MNWC

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Quote dilemma !
« on: November 18, 2008, 07:43:31 pm »
Went to price a Commercial today.
The client wants us to set out the quote as follows-

Monthly         =
Quarterly      =
Six monthly   =

say just for example the monthly figure was £200

Would the quarterly be £300 ?
six monthly be  £600 ?

if so the client would save money on a quarterly clean @ £1200 rather than £2400 p/a on a monthly

If the price was £200 p/m how would you price it for above ??

Mike 108

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 08:03:29 pm »
I haven't got any big commercial work, but -

If a 'first clean' is normally double the price of a regular clean, shouldn't the six monthly clean be only double the monthly one?

A 3 monthly clean could be one and a half times the monthly clean.

Just a thought from someone who only has 'domestics'

Mike

MNWC

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2008, 08:05:47 pm »
should have said that we have stipulated a 30% surcharge for the initial first clean

Tosh

Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2008, 08:11:17 pm »
Do you know if the client has put the quote out to other window cleaners?

I'd bet they have, judging by the quote they want from you.

Now, remember, you should quote more than what you would if you were using ladders; according to some!  ;)

Maybe some of the older members here would suggest you quote as if you're still on ladders but using a chamois; so quote REALLY REALLY high in that instance.

But I'd say you've got to quote on the cheaper side, if you want the job, then cut-all-the-corners you can to make the job profitable; but still a nice job.

Wayne Thomas

Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 08:11:34 pm »
Ask the questions like: is the property on a main busy road, is there a bus stop next to the building, is the property surrounded by trees (sap) or near the sea with salt deposits being left on the glass, etc. How much extra work and time will it take to clean less frequently and once you've realised the problems you can set your price to reflect the periodic interval accordingly.

MNWC

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2008, 08:17:03 pm »
I can imagine the extra work at these cleaning intervals but im trying to look at it from the clients point of view eg.

the cost per annum, and also trying to make our figures look reasonable !!!




Mike 108

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2008, 08:18:09 pm »
If the quote for monthly cleans was #200 (plus 30% for the first clean), I think that it should be the same amount fot a 6 monthly clean (i.e. #200 plus 30%) - with the price for a 3 monthly clean somewhere between the two.

Perhaps you should stipulate that the quote may have to be amended after a couple of cleans, if it is taking you longer than expected.

Mike

MNWC

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 08:20:05 pm »
Quote
f the quote for monthly cleans was #200 (plus 30% for the first clean), I think that it should be the same amount fot a 6 monthly clean (with the price for a 3 monthly clean somewhere between the two).

Sorry i dont understand

williamx

Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2008, 08:24:11 pm »
Quote what you are happy to work for.

Don't under-quote to get the contract, you will soon learn to hate the job, also don't over-quote, its starting to get competitive out there now.

Mike 108

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2008, 08:25:06 pm »
First clean               #200 plus 30%
Monthly thereafter    #200
3 Monthly                #200 plus 15%
6 monthly                #200 plus 30%

Mike

MNWC

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2008, 09:13:13 pm »
Quote
First clean               #200 plus 30%
Monthly thereafter    #200
3 Monthly                #200 plus 15%
6 monthly                #200 plus 30%

I think we'll go with that

Cheers Mike...

lovewindows

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 09:18:16 pm »
Mikes close but 5% 10% 15% would be my advice
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2008, 09:21:21 pm »
Mikes close but 5% 10% 15% would be my advice
how does that work then

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2008, 09:29:44 pm »
sorry that came across a bit blunt
what i mean is you give 3 percentage figures
so where does each one fit in the quote

lovewindows

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2008, 10:02:35 pm »
1st +5%
3mthly +10%
6mthly +15%
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2008, 10:09:14 pm »
fair enough,trouble is its minging and i dont think plus 5% on the first clean will cover the extra time taken,we think we have got it right now,somwhere between your suggestion and mikes,with a bit of tweaking for other factors ;D thanks all

Paul Coleman

Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2008, 08:17:56 am »
Went to price a Commercial today.
The client wants us to set out the quote as follows-

Monthly         =
Quarterly      =
Six monthly   =

say just for example the monthly figure was £200

Would the quarterly be £300 ?
six monthly be  £600 ?

if so the client would save money on a quarterly clean @ £1200 rather than £2400 p/a on a monthly

If the price was £200 p/m how would you price it for above ??

On a job of that sort of size, I wouldn't  usually charge more for the first clean if there was ongoing work from it.  It usually means that I do the first clean at a much lower rate but that can be made up over the first few cleans quite easily.
As far as cleaning intervals go, on such jobs I reckon that I could only justify (to myself) charging more per clean once the frequency exceeded about four months.  Over four months is often the point at which I would need to put in more effort and go over some parts of the job twice in order to do a fairly decent job.  Obviously this can vary depending on whether it's a high pollution area, lots of trees etc etc.  So quarterly could cost the same as monthly.  Start getting into 2 - 3 cleans per year and I would be looking for a bit extra.  I know that the difference between three monthly and four monthly probably isn't much but there needs to be a cutoff point somewhere when the charging increases.

lovewindows

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Re: Quote dilemma !
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 09:46:05 am »
agree with Shiner, at the end of the day what you want is 1/ the job 2/ regular work . Lets be honest do a good job on the first after that it' easy.
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon