[spark1]

Got a phone call the other day from the gardener of a house i do , saying can
i stop using wfp and do them trad
Reason wfp damaging paint and putty
I found out they've just had windows painted and repaired,and the guilty windows are south facing.
I dont want to do them trad because there Georgian ,and a lot of windows are hard to get to.
This is a big house worth £250 every 3 months not quite sure what to do.

[darragh windows]

i clean a goergian house, use to hate doing it trad would never go back unless i had to, a while back she mentioned this to us that the wfp was harder on her paint work . we just explained to her the brushes bristles are very soft and that its not a pressure washer just a gentle rinse she then said she had noticed small white paint flakes left on the sills which was what had made her doubt wfp any way we just said if you ever looked in our bucket when we rinsed our chamois you would have found plenty of flakes and that any over paint on the glass edges always flakes away. she seemed happy enough and let us continue no problems since

[Tosh]

This is a big house worth £250 every 3 months not quite sure what to do.

I used to do part of a 17th Century mansion (Itton Court; you can google for a picture of it I'm sure) and it had lots of high Georgian windows.

I was never really happy with the result I got from WFP; I know 'cos after the outsides, we cleaned the insides.

It wasn't really our fault; the paintwork was oxidised and the frames needed work doing to them.

But there was no way I was going to hand-bash all those little panes of glass.

Do you think you're not producing good results and your customer is making excuses; wanting you to go back to trad?

Just a thought.

[Tosh]

,and the guilty windows are south facing.

This is the reason for my above post.

South facing windows stay in the Sun for longer and oxidise the quickest.

[Wayne Thomas]

I clean a lot of houses with Georgian windows and some customers have mentioned about wfp damaging paintwork.

I use to clean with Tucker brushes on these windows but now I only use Gardiner dual trim super light brush on these windows because the brush is better for the following reasons:

The bristles can flick the cobwebs out of the corners easier.
The bristles flex more (floppy movement vertically) so less pressure on the paintwork.
The brush is narrower and fits nicely in the runner channels on sash windows.
Lastly the brush holds less bristles and allows a better water flow for rinsing brush on at height so this brush is ideal for Georgian sash windows as much as it compliments the SL2 at height.

[spark1]

This is a big house worth £250 every 3 months not quite sure what to do.

I used to do part of a 17th Century mansion (Itton Court; you can google for a picture of it I'm sure) and it had lots of high Georgian windows.

I was never really happy with the result I got from WFP; I know 'cos after the outsides, we cleaned the insides.

It wasn't really our fault; the paintwork was oxidised and the frames needed work doing to them.

But there was no way I was going to hand-bash all those little panes of glass.

Do you think you're not producing good results and your customer is making excuses; wanting you to go back to trad?

Just a thought.

I also do insides and they came up really well.I think painters may have said something not really knowing much about wfp.
Also dont deal with the owners very often they are very wealthy and dont get to involved with domestic issues,and the Gardner does as hes told :.
catch 22.

[Chris Cottrell]

I think you should explain to them that you could do them trad but under no circumstances would you do anything at height without the pole because you just simply would not be insured if anything did happen, tell them that you have there best interests at heart and you will endeavour to be as careful with brushing techniques as humanly possible

[spark1]

I suppose i will try to explain.Ive got a lot of work so not to worried about losing this one but if i can keep it i will.Although i'm not going to do trad because it will take far to long and bloody hard work.

[Chris Cottrell]

you must have too much work if your not worried about loosing a £250 clean, imo these are the customers you really should look after