[JPWC]

Hi all, I have been window cleaning for around 12 years now using applicators and squeegees. Been using WFP for around 7 of those but obviously still using the squeegees for inside work etc.
When I first started squeegeeing I used to get a pain like writers cramp after possibly squeegeeing a large window but that soon disappeared seconds after finishing the window. 12 years later for the past 2 weeks I have had a very intermittent dull ache in my better squeegeeing hand especially when window cleaning and for long periods of time in between. Have not been to doctors yet but have had to take pain killers a few times, just wondered if anyone has had the same complaint and how did you deal with it etc etc. I await your replys, Regards.

[NWH]

I have had it for the last 4 months or so and have been to chiropractors,otespaths the lot and have done the right thing and gone back to the GP,i have had golfers elbow but it isn`t bad enough to stop me from working.Funny enough it dosen`t bother me much at work it`s usually when i stop or at night,the best thing you can do is catch it early and makesure you wear an elbow strap when at work it really helps and if put in the right place will drastically reduce the pain and symptoms you have,golfers and tennis elbow runs a course and it`s normally about 9-10 months.Phisio is the best thing for it and if you go to the doctors you will get it free for about 5 sessions,if you`ve got that numb feeling in your hands in could be that your ulner nerve is catching on the bone inside the elbow and this can be due to WFPoleing,don`t do what i did and panic get a strap and go to the doctors he will put your mind at rest.When your WFPoleing makesure your palm is faceing your body this also reduces the strain put on the muscles your agrovating,hope this helps you.

[JPWC]

Thanks for input, its funny you mention getting it when WFP'ing, I sometimes get cramp in my hand especially when using the 60 footer, I think its cos the bottom section is quite big compared to the smaller poles meaning stretching your hand round the pole a lot more.

[Wayne Thomas]

Thanks for input, its funny you mention getting it when WFP'ing, I sometimes get cramp in my hand especially when using the 60 footer, I think its cos the bottom section is quite big compared to the smaller poles meaning stretching your hand round the pole a lot more.

I like Facelift and SL-X poles because they are nice and slim in the palm of my hand. I picked up one of my old 30ft glass fibre poles the other day just out of curiosity and it weighed a tonne and was so wide to fit in my hand. Thank god I don't use it anymore. That use to be a strain on my fingers using that thing all day long, day in, day out. Thank goodness for slim carbon fibre poles, hands have improved plenty now. Buy the best poles you can afford for the sake of your health and to help minimise repetitive strain injuries

[NWH]

The main thing that will improve things for anyone with these problems is to use the lightest pole possible and at the moment the only 1 out there is the SL2,using this pole has really help me no end.The weight and diameter of the pole is not the only thing that plays a part,hands in the wrong position when using poles makes a big difference also.The difference between using the facelift-SLX compared to the SL2 is vast in weight as most know,if you have golfers-tennis elbow any increase in weight is noticed.IMO telescopic poles play a big part in RSI,raising sections up and down allday on a tele pole is a lot harder than using an SL2,i think this is 1 of the main causes of RSI because i know from my own experience that when i stay off the tele poles the tesion is eased on the elbows that`s for sure.

[Wayne Thomas]

I'd just like to add that lighter poles are better for your health regarding RSI, circumference of the poles plays a very big part as well. The slimmer the pole the easier it is to hold for prolonged periods. I used my SL-2 & my SL-X today. SL-2 for height and SL-X for lower work. If both pole types were the same weight I would prefer to use the SL-X anyday because it's slimmer in diameter and also because it's telescopic. Alex please make a slim, telescopic extension of the 25ft SL-X to reach 44ft 

[Alex Gardiner]

Alex please make a slim, telescopic extension of the 25ft SL-X to reach 44ft 

Okay Wayne 

[Wayne Thomas]

Alex please make a slim, telescopic extension of the 25ft SL-X to reach 44ft 

Okay Wayne 

Alex....seriously  

Thank-you Alex

Don't give a date when it will be available otherwise the pole deadline will be jinxed

[Alex Gardiner]

Would 43ft be OK?

[Wayne Thomas]

Would 43ft be OK?

That would be really helpful Alex. What length would the pole sections be and how many? What's the base diameter going to be out of curiosity?

[Wayne Thomas]

Just like to add, I can work a lot quicker with an SL-X than a SL-2 anyday. New dual trim Super brush helps speed up jobs as well. Doesn't scrub quite as good as a Tucker brush but does if I use hot water. I can work quicker using a Super brush if I'm using hot water than using a Tucker with cold water when it comes to heavily soiled windows.

[Wayne Thomas]

Your fingers will ache if you try using a wf pole that is too short for a job. Holding a pole at full stretch with both hands near to the bottom of the base section at arms length will put a considerable strain on the back of your wrists as all the weight and balance, coupled with the strain is magnified through incorrect pole use.

I find the correct length to work with is when the base of the pole rests against the ground and the brush head sits firmly against the sill at the same angle as used with ladders (1:4). Any less and you're overstretching to reach a job and putting a strain on your body somewhere. RSI is your body's way of telling you something is wrong and you need to figure out why it's happening and take action to avoid future long term health problems.

[dave0123]

Think iv done my sholder in,



i hurt it the other week with ladder stupidly right on the top part, it was quite sore for a week and keeps clickings well like the bones are hitting eachother.


Dont know what it is doesnt hurt but sounds like its doing some damage.

[Alex Gardiner]

Would 43ft be OK?

That would be really helpful Alex. What length would the pole sections be and how many? What's the base diameter going to be out of curiosity?

9 Sections, closed length 5' 8", diameter 43mm, weight 2.9kg.

[Tosh]

This is purely anecdotal, but I used to suffer with a painfull elbow after any prolonged period of heavy work.

It's now completely cleared up not long after I started taking a glucosamine supplement which is used to keep your joints healthy; athletes use it; and my vet reccommends it for dogs who're knocking-on-a-bit; I've encouraged Wor Lass to take it too. 

But honestly; no elbow pain since.

It's available in Tescos, Boots and the like.

[NWH]

This is purely anecdotal, but I used to suffer with a painfull elbow after any prolonged period of heavy work.

It's now completely cleared up not long after I started taking a glucosamine supplement which is used to keep your joints healthy; athletes use it; and my vet reccommends it for dogs who're knocking-on-a-bit; I've encouraged Wor Lass to take it too. 

But honestly; no elbow pain since.

It's available in Tescos, Boots and the like.

It is supposed to contain the same ingredient that we produce naturally to help protect joints and cartilidge,tennis and golfers elbow is brought on by strain being put on the 3 muscles that join the elbow from the tricep.If you stand to far back from the window when using WFP it puts to much strain on the forearms which in turn puts strain on the muscles just above the elbow causing tennis-golfers elbow,if you use heavy poles day in day out it will take longer to clear up.I wear a strap on both arms now and will continue to do so when WFPoleing as i find it helps no end.
 

[ftp]

Would 43ft be OK?

That would be really helpful Alex. What length would the pole sections be and how many? What's the base diameter going to be out of curiosity?

9 Sections, closed length 5' 8", diameter 43mm, weight 2.9kg.

I'm guessing some sections will be interchangeable with the current SLX? So would this mean the chance of upgrading the twenty five foot pole to the forty three?

[NWH]

That will make it even heavier,i don`t want any fiberglass on my poles anymore i know it`s solution to make it longer but it aint gonna make it lighter.

[Wayne Thomas]

Would 43ft be OK?

That would be really helpful Alex. What length would the pole sections be and how many? What's the base diameter going to be out of curiosity?

9 Sections, closed length 5' 8", diameter 43mm, weight 2.9kg.

Hello Alex,

I'm assuming the 43ft SL-X would be all carbon lengths, the same as the original SL-X. If it is count me in for the new pole.

I already have the fibre glass section you sent me to extend my original SL-X. I also added on a hybrid section to add on top of your extension. The 25ft SL-X of mine has the 2 extra lengths on and works fine for doing 4 storey work but would prefer the new improved version if it all consists of all carbon fibre.