[Jewel Cleaning]

Recieved my first bag of resin today..

It says on the bag "Ion exchange resin"

Is this correct for DI resin, (ie not softner resin) 

Cheers,

Jay

[edd]

what make is it and what color is the bag ....normally ion exchange is di stuff

[Jewel Cleaning]

These are pics of the bag:

Jacobi Resinex?  (I've ordered it from cleaning spot, as DI resin, but wondered if they'd made a mistake or not?)

[DASERVICES]

Each manufacturer will have the product on each for example Purolite MB400, Tulsion MB-115, Dowex MB50.

Looking at the pic it could be anything so hope they have supplied you with mixed bed, the one thing I would be annoyed at is that you purchased not the one advertised on their website. So this could be a lot inferior to the original product they sold thus cutting costs or a better performing product.

When advertising they need to let you know what product you are buying, there is a huge difference in performance.

Hope it turns out okay.

[darragh windows]

Yeah I'd heard that there's a big difference in quality.

A friend of mine uses.   Rohm and Haas             Apparently the ph is much better than most (more acidic)

the first bag of resin i ever got from was from cleaning spot and it was  Rohm and Haas   and it wasnt in a bag like that         

[L.J.Thorpe]

thats what happens during the de ionising process
ions are exchanged between water and resin

[d s windowcleaning]

thats what happens during the de ionising process
ions are exchanged between water and resin

Yeah but is this stuff Di or softener?

its a di mate .

[L.J.Thorpe]

no idea
whats th difference
same process
aint it
try it and check tds
resin varies a LOT in quality
if it does job fine
maybe it wont last very well
maybe it will be great
is "ssoftener resin "different? i dont know
it will probably do the job its just a question of how well

[L.J.Thorpe]

do cleaning spot sell water softeners 
i dont know what softener rein is
have you opened the bag

[L.J.Thorpe]

fair enough
i never knew of any difference
all the resin i have bought came from 1 of 3 suppliers
cleantech
gardiners
soap national
quality varies a lot

[michael papworth]

thats what happens during the de ionising process
ions are exchanged between water and resin

Yes, that's right. deionising resin works by removing ions from the water and replacing them
with other ions -  that is, it exchanges ions.

First of all you need to know a couple of things:

1 - Dissolved minerals are salts; that is they are made up of a metal and a base. The best-known
example is sodium chloride (NaCl), which is common salt. Sodium is a metal and the chloride is
a base. Another example would be calcium carbonate (CaCO₃) in which calcium (Ca)
is the metal and carbonate (CO₃) is the base.

2 - When a salt dissolves, the salt molecules spilt up into ions. In the case of sodium chloride, it
splits into Na⁺ and Cl^-. Similarly, calcium carbonate splits into Ca⁺⁺
and CO₃^--.  The + and - indicate that they have an electrical charge. These
charges are exactly balanced, so you don't get an electric shock when you put your finger into a
solution!

The physical chemistry of this is fairly straightforward. If you're struggling with it, find a year 11 kids
who's good at chemistry - or someone doing A level chemistry and get them to tell you about ionic
bonding (sometimes called electrovalent bonding).

The deionising resin that we buy and use is a mixture of two different resins. One exchanges the
positive cations and the other exchanges the negative anions. (But don't ask me how, because
I've got no idea.)

* Positive ions like Na⁺ and Ca⁺⁺ (cations) are removed and replaced with
H⁺ ions.

* Negative ions like Cl^- and CO₃^-- (anions) are replaced with
OH^- (called hydroxyl) ions.

* H⁺ added to OH^- gives HOH = H₂O which is water!

So the result is that salts are removed and replaced with water.

[michael papworth]

Thanks Wally!

So what resin do I have?

Yes. That's the problem - and I can't help with that I'm afraid.

You see, water softening resin also works by ion exchange, but it's a completely different and much simpler single process. In that case Ca⁺⁺ ions are replaced with 2 Na⁺ ions.

So the name on the bag is not exactly helpful, is it?

You know that it exchanges ions, but you don't know what ions it exchanges for what.

If I were you, I wouldn't be at all happy with the supplier.

What does it say on the invoice?

[DASERVICES]

I would personally check with Cleaningspot as doing a bit of digging Jacobi do activated carbons, if they have started doing mixed bed then this is relatively new.

Double check with them just in case.

[Jewel Cleaning]

Yeah you're right wally.

The invoice says virgin polymer mixed bed DI resin, which is what I ordered. (Their site says it's as good as Rohm and Haas etc)

I just wondered if anyone else has recieved the same bag, and whether they'd know.

I emailed C/S earlier on today, with a pic of the bag, but they haven't replied.

Anyhow, I'll soon know when I start using it, because softener has no effect on water tds reading!

So Wally, why can I regenerate my softener resin with salt?  Why doesn't this make the water salty after regenerating process?

[michael papworth]

Yeah you're right wally.

The invoice says virgin polymer mixed bed DI resin, which is what I ordered. (Their site says it's as good as Rohm and Haas etc)

I just wondered if anyone else has recieved the same bag, and whether they'd know.

I emailed C/S earlier on today, with a pic of the bag, but they haven't replied.

Anyhow, I'll soon know when I start using it, because softener has no effect on water tds reading!

So Wally, why can I regenerate my softener resin with salt? Why doesn't this make the water salty after regenerating process?

A water softener works by ion exchange. But I'm not sure precisely how these systems work.

However, I do know that the salt reacts with the resin in order to regenerate it, so there isn't any salt there. It's consumed in the regeneration process.

The Na ions from the salt are captured by the resin. They are then used to replace the Ca "hardness" ions. Once all the Na is consumed, the resin needs to be regenerated again.

[Jewel Cleaning]

thats what happens during the de ionising process
ions are exchanged between water and resin

Yeah but is this stuff Di or softener?

its a di mate .

Daveshaw!

Sorry didn't spot your post, have you bought this brand in the past?