[ollie]

Do any other porty users just have water in their machines all the time? I was on a job  two weeks ago and realised I hadnt  put most of my solutions back in  the van after its weekend cleanout, so  i had to just prespray and use plain water. I left the prespray down for an extra 10 mins and the carpet came up lovely. Since then I havent used anything but just water on a variety of jobs and im amazed at the results. Just wondered if anyone else just uses water?

[John Milnes]

I never put chemicals in the tank, the prespray and agitation does all the work unless using acid rinse or deodoriser.

John

[mitch2810]

It depends on which pre spray you use. If you use a high alkaline pre spray you obviously need to neutralise with an acidic rinse. Certain pre sprays can be rinsed with just water, providing the carpet ends up with a neutral ph
Phil

[Ken Wainwright]

Ollie

Although I use a freshwater rinse myself on much of my work, it's not wise to do so with all pre-sprays.

The majority of pre-sprays are not free rinsing. This means that although a freshwater rinse may achieve the desired appearance, you may still be leaving a too high percentage of your detergent behind. This in turn may lead to accelerated resoiling amongst other potential problems.

My advice would be to follow the manufacturers instructions. If a rinse detergent is required, use it. A typical acidic rinse also contains detergents to help remove residues as well as reducing the alkalinity.

Most first and second generation micro splitter pre-sprays are free rinsing, also Spitfire Advanced, so freshwater is appropriate to these. Spitfire is conditional in that it requires quite hot water to rinse effectively.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[Straker Cleaning]

One of my better selling points

[Ken Wainwright]

Totally agree Chris. It works really well for me too

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[*paul_moss]

Ken beat me as I was going to put a similar answer.
I use fresh water rinse on nearly all jobs  

[carpet guy]

Spitfire ?

[*paul_moss]

Dry fusion stock it.

[ollie]

Thanks all,  I will order some spitfire.  My question also stems from the fact that when my wand and handtool started leaking after 1 month Ashbys told me they teach only rinsing with fresh water and misting with an acid afterwards . They told me the acid wears away parts and would have caused my  leaks if i had it in my tank. I never followed that advice until two weeks ago.

[Fintan_Coll]

I would agree with them Ollie, nowadays I never add anything to the tank. I have stopped using an acid rinse in the tank , instead I apply it by a sprayer. Powders are defenitely out too as since I stopped using using any in the tank, pumps just go on for ever and ever as before this six months per pump was about average.
I do sometimes mix ultimate master but use it in a sprayer in certain circumstances but will never, never use it in my solution tank again.

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

Ollie made a very good point in his original post about leaving his prespray longer to work.

In all the promotion of agiatation/MS /blah blah, it can be lost that detegents work by contact and time is important, thats why a washing machine cycle has soaking periods, otherwise it could be completed in 10 mins 

Knowing the right detergent to use and allowing it time to work can allow you to use a lightly charged rinse in your machine.

Cheers

Doug

[Bob Robertson]

I still have the same pump in my machine that I bought in Oct 2005, and its still going strong. Only ever used water rinse in it.

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