[Village Gleam]

This job can't be done without george.(realisticly) That's just fact. Being able to do internet banking with your custies paying straight in  is another advantage.

If you just want to earn a living you don't need it. If you want to move forward you do. It's not about keeping up with the jones. When you've got it you'll see for yourself.

I've managed without George for 22 years (not that it was around at the beginning)!  We look after large domestic rounds, some of them sub-contracted out and large commercial rounds.  Whilst I'm sure it's a very useful bit of software, you really do not need it to run a successful business plus I just can't be bothered and my wife says I'm tight.

This does surprise me. I got put in my place once before over this by trevor knight who has a bigger business and better software that works out the actual route and best way to do the round and lots of financial stuff that george doesn't do.

The fact is though Alex that you, and most probably your dad spent many hours figuring out the best way to retain and work with the information you need to do your job. I know that Shiner has a very good spreadsheet template set up too, but how many man hours did this take to evolve. George costs £50.

To print off tomorrows work, one click. Who owes you money? one click. New customer, just type it in. Any frequency. How much did you earn last month?this financial year todate?

Are far as cost benefit ratio's go it beats anything.

[Paul Coleman]

This job can't be done without george.(realisticly) That's just fact. Being able to do internet banking with your custies paying straight in  is another advantage.

If you just want to earn a living you don't need it. If you want to move forward you do. It's not about keeping up with the jones. When you've got it you'll see for yourself.

I've managed without George for 22 years (not that it was around at the beginning)!  We look after large domestic rounds, some of them sub-contracted out and large commercial rounds.  Whilst I'm sure it's a very useful bit of software, you really do not need it to run a successful business plus I just can't be bothered and my wife says I'm tight.

This does surprise me. I got put in my place once before over this by trevor knight who has a bigger business and better software that works out the actual route and best way to do the round and lots of financial stuff that george doesn't do.

The fact is though Alex that you, and most probably your dad spent many hours figuring out the best way to retain and work with the information you need to do your job. I know that Shiner has a very good spreadsheet template set up too, but how many man hours did this take to evolve. George costs £50.

To print off tomorrows work, one click. Who owes you money? one click. New customer, just type it in. Any frequency. How much did you earn last month?this financial year todate?

Are far as cost benefit ratio's go it beats anything.

It only takes a couple of mouse clicks for me to view various reports too.
It's swings and roundabouts I think Mr Solubility.
Bear in mind I wasn't aware of George and similar software when I first set up my templates too.
I acknowledge that I did need to spend a while developing my templates to the way I wanted them and there was a certain amount of head scratching and I also needed to ask a few questions on usenet.  However, the flip side of that is that I only had to develop the features that I wanted.  If someone wants an extra feature, they must wait until the author of George updates the software (and I understand he is pretty good at adding things).  However, if I need an extra field on my database with a formula in it or if I need to manipulate the software to produce a different type of report, I can just spend a few minutes at most making my tweaks.
So pros and cons really.
I spent longer setting it up but it does reflect my needs more specifically.
I can make my own adjustments when I choose to make them but I have to put a little bit of effort in.
Mine doesn't have a friendly looking front end but that doesn't matter if you've set it up yourself.  However, this could initially make it a bit harder for others to use.
George does look more user friendly but you might have to wait for an update if it doesn't meet a specific need.

A lot depends on how an individual wants to do things I think.
The right solution for one person might not be right for someone else.
Also, I did get a small sense of achievement from setting things up myself.

[Alex Gardiner]

This job can't be done without george.(realisticly) That's just fact. Being able to do internet banking with your custies paying straight in  is another advantage.

If you just want to earn a living you don't need it. If you want to move forward you do. It's not about keeping up with the jones. When you've got it you'll see for yourself.

I've managed without George for 22 years (not that it was around at the beginning)!  We look after large domestic rounds, some of them sub-contracted out and large commercial rounds.  Whilst I'm sure it's a very useful bit of software, you really do not need it to run a successful business plus I just can't be bothered and my wife says I'm tight.

This does surprise me. I got put in my place once before over this by trevor knight who has a bigger business and better software that works out the actual route and best way to do the round and lots of financial stuff that george doesn't do.

The fact is though Alex that you, and most probably your dad spent many hours figuring out the best way to retain and work with the information you need to do your job. I know that Shiner has a very good spreadsheet template set up too, but how many man hours did this take to evolve. George costs £50.

To print off tomorrows work, one click. Who owes you money? one click. New customer, just type it in. Any frequency. How much did you earn last month?this financial year todate?

Are far as cost benefit ratio's go it beats anything.

I'm sure you're right, that it's a very good bit of software and I'm sure if I used it I would swear by it, but I was just making the point that it is not essential to establishing your business.  In fact, in the early days you have more time than money available, so the time spent developing a paper system costs you very little (you also do not need any PC or PDA to run it).  Our paper systems were developed years before most people had computers, they work, so we've stuck with them.

One day I may get round to downloading a free trial of it. You never know, I may become a convert 

[Wayne Thomas]

This job can't be done without george.(realisticly) That's just fact. Being able to do internet banking with your custies paying straight in  is another advantage.

If you just want to earn a living you don't need it. If you want to move forward you do. It's not about keeping up with the jones. When you've got it you'll see for yourself.

I've managed without George for 22 years (not that it was around at the beginning)!  We look after large domestic rounds, some of them sub-contracted out and large commercial rounds.  Whilst I'm sure it's a very useful bit of software, you really do not need it to run a successful business plus I just can't be bothered and my wife says I'm tight.

This does surprise me. I got put in my place once before over this by trevor knight who has a bigger business and better software that works out the actual route and best way to do the round and lots of financial stuff that george doesn't do.

The fact is though Alex that you, and most probably your dad spent many hours figuring out the best way to retain and work with the information you need to do your job. I know that Shiner has a very good spreadsheet template set up too, but how many man hours did this take to evolve. George costs £50.

To print off tomorrows work, one click. Who owes you money? one click. New customer, just type it in. Any frequency. How much did you earn last month?this financial year todate?

Are far as cost benefit ratio's go it beats anything.

One day I may get round to downloading a free trial of it. You never know, I may become a convert 

Alex,

you're a person always trying to improve the look and access of gardiners website/shop so I would suggest you try George for FREE on trial.
I bet you'll try it and buy it to make paperwork easier and to save time writing out work schedules for your employees if nothing else. Give it a try, what have you got to lose?

[Tim Rose]

This job can't be done without george.(realisticly) That's just fact. Being able to do internet banking with your custies paying straight in  is another advantage.

If you just want to earn a living you don't need it. If you want to move forward you do. It's not about keeping up with the jones. When you've got it you'll see for yourself.

I've managed without George for 22 years (not that it was around at the beginning)!  We look after large domestic rounds, some of them sub-contracted out and large commercial rounds.  Whilst I'm sure it's a very useful bit of software, you really do not need it to run a successful business plus I just can't be bothered and my wife says I'm tight.

This does surprise me. I got put in my place once before over this by trevor knight who has a bigger business and better software that works out the actual route and best way to do the round and lots of financial stuff that george doesn't do.

The fact is though Alex that you, and most probably your dad spent many hours figuring out the best way to retain and work with the information you need to do your job. I know that Shiner has a very good spreadsheet template set up too, but how many man hours did this take to evolve. George costs £50.

To print off tomorrows work, one click. Who owes you money? one click. New customer, just type it in. Any frequency. How much did you earn last month?this financial year todate?

Are far as cost benefit ratio's go it beats anything.

One day I may get round to downloading a free trial of it. You never know, I may become a convert 

Alex,

you're a person always trying to improve the look and access of gardiners website/shop so I would suggest you try George for FREE on trial.
I bet you'll try it and buy it to make paperwork easier and to save time writing out work schedules for your employees if nothing else. Give it a try, what have you got to lose?

It's abit like saying, "There's nothing wrong with a tea strainer - so why bother with a tea bag?" kind of backwards thinking.

[Alex Gardiner]

I suppose you'll be telling me next that I should be using one of these water fed pole thingies.

[john tomkins]

As someone said earlier that they just print off the accounts on George at the end of the year and hand it to the accountant.... well how do you add extras you do throughout the year, con roofs, gutter cleaning, any other odd paid jobs....or dont anyone bother including these 

[frames to panes]

wash your mouth out with soap!

[frames to panes]

There is an option for one off jobs.

[macmac]

You absolutley don't need it & to be honest, in your circumstances only a fool would consider such a total waste of money.

some people love to just over complicate the uncomplicated
 
couple of A4 diaries & some paper, oh, yeah & a pen or two.

And before anyone starts, when he does become a multi-millionaire with 50 wfp vans on the road etc. etc yawn, urg, hum. then, yes he may need it.!

tony

[macmac]

This job can't be done without george.(realisticly) That's just fact. Being able to do internet banking with your custies paying straight in  is another advantage.

If you just want to earn a living you don't need it. If you want to move forward you do. It's not about keeping up with the jones. When you've got it you'll see for yourself.

This is the most stupid statement i think i have ever seen on this forum
What hope have newbies got when this utter tripe is put before them

tony

[Sir Squeaky]

We specialise in tripe on this forum Tony. :

[john tomkins]

There is an option for one off jobs.

Go on then Dave, do tell, I haven't come across that one

[Wayne Thomas]

There is an option for one off jobs.

Go on then Dave, do tell, I haven't come across that one

It's found under frequency of cleans

[john tomkins]

There is an option for one off jobs.

Go on then Dave, do tell, I haven't come across that one

It's found under frequency of cleans

Where's that hiding, and how do you do it?
Ta

[frames to panes]

 when you create a job click on the frequency button then weeks and drop down menu appears, then right at the bottom it says once only.

[john tomkins]

when you create a job click on the frequency button then weeks and drop down menu appears, then right at the bottom it says once only.

You learn something every day
Thanks

[Village Gleam]

This job can't be done without george.(realisticly) That's just fact. Being able to do internet banking with your custies paying straight in  is another advantage.

If you just want to earn a living you don't need it. If you want to move forward you do. It's not about keeping up with the jones. When you've got it you'll see for yourself.

This is the most stupid statement i think i have ever seen on this forum
What hope have newbies got when this utter tripe is put before them

tony

Cheeky devil. Actually the guy who asked the question is a real trier. He goes to the library to  get onto the internet to find out what we have to say a day later. He is smart enought to know that his work is 30% underpriced, and listens to advice that is given to him. If any one deserves to succeed it's him, and I'm sure that in time he will, George or no George.