[Rogue Trader]

I have just got a big job that needs wfp so i need to finally take the plunge!

1. Is it best to have a static tank at home rather than RO system on van -seems simpler to have just one tank on van - disadvantage being it needing to be plugged onto the tap for 5 hours every night (is this true?) Does anyone think this is a good way to do it?

2. How easy is it to install tank (static and van mount) , how easily do all parts bolt together (tank/ro/di etc)

3. I have found a local company that comes reccommended and cheap (chic cleaning) anyone have used them before.

4. If i do go for static tank can i keep outside or do i need to get a shed?

Thanks in advance

Matt

[windowwashers]

I have just got a big job that needs wfp so i need to finally take the plunge!

1. Is it best to have a static tank at home rather than RO system on van -seems simpler to have just one tank on van - disadvantage being it needing to be plugged onto the tap for 5 hours every night (is this true?) Does anyone think this is a good way to do it?

2. How easy is it to install tank (static and van mount) , how easily do all parts bolt together (tank/ro/di etc)

3. I have found a local company that comes reccommended and cheap (chic cleaning) anyone have used them before.

4. If i do go for static tank can i keep outside or do i need to get a shed?

Thanks in advance

Matt

Hi Matt this is my thought on this and I did alot of back ground on in for a couple of years.

1 static tank is good if you have the room for one.
2 installing a static tank is easy, van mounted tank get it done professionally to be safe "it is not expensive" and less than a few hundred quid your life is more important 1L=1kg x that by say 500L it kills if not secure if in an acciedent thats the bottom line on that one.
3 i would reccomend www.purefreedom.co.uk andrew McCann 01472 347519 mention window washers this guy talks straigth and does not try and sell you anything.
4 static outside would need to very well insulated and UV covered to protect from the weather sun shine (algee) (winter(freezing)



p.s I have a van mount RO system on van, I do not habe the space till I move, but will be getting new van as soon as I move and get a static system aswell, benifits of it all being on board is when you do a big job you can fill as you work (in most cases)
benifits of a static are you can produce water while you are at work no need to fill when you finish(which if I am honest is a pain in the (a@%) if you have both you will be sorted.

down side to staic only if you run out of water you have to go back to base to fill up again, onboard you dont.

it would depend alot on the work area that you cover, We cover 2 large counties so on board is good for now.

if you want to have a chat bell me on 07788 732 789 or 01234 870 225.

hope this helps a little.

best wishes

Ian Wicks

[Rogue Trader]

ok so i gotta get a shed ..... but do you have to make a frame for the tank to sit on or can you use a piece of furniture or sit it on the floor.

When you say a professional to fit tank in van do you mean a wfp installation prof or a bodyworker/welder?

Oh and one final question :

What size tank (static and van) do i need (currently work on my own and work a full day)

and one more:

Havent even bought a van yet - what do you recommend (only got about 3k for van!)

[windowwashers]

ok so i gotta get a shed ..... but do you have to make a frame for the tank to sit on or can you use a piece of furniture or sit it on the floor.

When you say a professional to fit tank in van do you mean a wfp installation prof or a bodyworker/welder?

Oh and one final question :

What size tank (static and van) do i need (currently work on my own and work a full day)

and one more:

Havent even bought a van yet - what do you recommend (only got about 3k for van!)

I would recomend you call me after eastenders or before you have 26 mins.

you dont have to have a shed, you will need to raise if from the floor as the floor gets very cold. Always go for the bigest tank you can as for van this will depend on the tank, I would say 400L one man, but are you going to take someone on?

call me I will have a chat with you, I dont sell systems so I will give you the honest answers you so much need right now m8.

best wishes

Ian Wicks
p.s eastenders finishes at 8:31pm 
01234 870 225 or 07788 732 789

[bluez]

I have both types of system and would highly recomend  the static system for the following reasons.

1. Access to the system is easier than trying to fiddle around in the back of your van.
2. You may run out of water on a job but at least it is only a trip back to base not a trip back to base and a five hour wait while it fills again.
3. If you expand you will not need to invest in a 2nd van mounted system just a delivery system which is much cheaper.
4. Controling water quality is a bit easier with a static as you can test it each morning before you fill as opposed to an issue araising over night and yoy having a full tank of crap water and a days work gone while you empty and fill again.
5. Extra space in your van or even room for a crew cab if you need it for family or business reasons.
6. Less wear and tear on your vehicle.

Hope this helps with your decision.

[mike richardson]

defo go for a static system
best thing i ever done it makes water while iam working

tank in van should be as big as your van will carry you can take water home with you but if you run out during the day you will be peed offf i built my own for less than £2000 and its enough to keep 3 men goin all day,7.30- 500

[macmac]

Just a point
What's the TDS of your tap water?
If you have soft water you don't need an RO system & all the gubbins that go with it, just a simple DI vessel or for better resin economy 2 x DI vessels.

tony

[windowwashers]

Just a point
What's the TDS of your tap water?
If you have soft water you don't need an RO system & all the gubbins that go with it, just a simple DI vessel or for better resin economy 2 x DI vessels.

tony

Matt is in a hard water area

[Paul Coleman]

I have just got a big job that needs wfp so i need to finally take the plunge!

1. Is it best to have a static tank at home rather than RO system on van -seems simpler to have just one tank on van - disadvantage being it needing to be plugged onto the tap for 5 hours every night (is this true?) Does anyone think this is a good way to do it?

2. How easy is it to install tank (static and van mount) , how easily do all parts bolt together (tank/ro/di etc)

3. I have found a local company that comes reccommended and cheap (chic cleaning) anyone have used them before.

4. If i do go for static tank can i keep outside or do i need to get a shed?

Thanks in advance

Matt

1. Static system if at all possible.  The reasons have been stated in other posts.  Also, it would probably be easier to protect an RO from freezing in a shed than it would in a van.

2.  Don't know.  I'm not really a DIYer.  I suggest getting Omnipole to do it in view of where you are based.  I have found them very good for aftersales service.  It sounds like cost may be an issue but what price your life if you are in a crash.  I suggest getting it fitted professionally whoever does it.

3.  I've not used chic so can't comment.

4.  You will need a shed of some sort.  Suggest one where you have plenty of room to walk around the tank in order to maintain bits.  Also, your RO will need protectiomn from freeze-ups.

Your welcome to come an see how I do things although my situation is not necessarily typical.

[Ian_Giles]

My static tank is sat outside on the floor, as is the R/O..never had a problem in over 3 years...no...I lie...had one day a couple of years ago where I could not fill van tank as weather was so cold the water in the transfer hose froze solid! ...though that wouldn't have made a difference for me even if it had been in the shed...transfer hose is 50m long and has to lay outside.
These IBC tanks come with their own frame and base anyway, so will sit happily on the floor.
Lagging your R/O is sensible though, and very easy to do.
If you are going to get a van, get something transit size, I have a Nissan Primastar, and a 650l tank, and even on very, very busy days I no longer run out of water, but even that will depend on the kind of flowrate you have, even with a 1000l tank, one man could run out of water in a single day if the flowrate is high enough.

With a tank and R/O in the van, for fast fill you have to have an expensive R/O, this is fine of course if you have money to spare, but you also need to connect up every night to refill, a static system at home is easier of course, but you do lose that ability to top up as you go along.

I fitted my own tank & cage, was easy enough, but for piece of mind it is better to let someone who knows what they are doing to fit it for you...all depends on the depth of your pocket and your own DIY skills.

Keep asking questions on here though

Ian

[eddie d]

 id recomend using a ro van mounted system.
just plug in go to bed .get up unplug and go .
running out of water on site .plug in and fill.this i do on several large jobs .

[Paul Coleman]

My static tank is sat outside on the floor, as is the R/O..never had a problem in over 3 years...no...I lie...had one day a couple of years ago where I could not fill van tank as weather was so cold the water in the transfer hose froze solid! ...though that wouldn't have made a difference for me even if it had been in the shed...transfer hose is 50m long and has to lay outside.
These IBC tanks come with their own frame and base anyway, so will sit happily on the floor.
Lagging your R/O is sensible though, and very easy to do.
If you are going to get a van, get something transit size, I have a Nissan Primastar, and a 650l tank, and even on very, very busy days I no longer run out of water, but even that will depend on the kind of flowrate you have, even with a 1000l tank, one man could run out of water in a single day if the flowrate is high enough.

With a tank and R/O in the van, for fast fill you have to have an expensive R/O, this is fine of course if you have money to spare, but you also need to connect up every night to refill, a static system at home is easier of course, but you do lose that ability to top up as you go along.

I fitted my own tank & cage, was easy enough, but for piece of mind it is better to let someone who knows what they are doing to fit it for you...all depends on the depth of your pocket and your own DIY skills.

Keep asking questions on here though

Ian

I'm very surprised you've had no problems keeping the RO outside Ian.   Last Winter was OK but the one before was quite bitter some nights.  I had an RO go on me and that was in the van at the time. I wasn't very thorough about protecting it though.

[Paul Coleman]

id recomend using a ro van mounted system.
just plug in go to bed .get up unplug and go .
running out of water on site .plug in and fill.this i do on several large jobs .

A lot depends on your personal circumstances though.  For instance, I live in a flat set back from the road and I sometimes I even have to park in the next road at night so there's no guarantee I could park near my home water source.  Also, my van is my only vehicle so if I needed to go out anywhere in the evening that was beyond reasonable walking distance I would have to rely on public transport (a non starter around here) or stay home.

[Rogue Trader]

id like to come down and see your setup Shiner seeing as though you are just round the corner.

Ill give you a call

[Paul Coleman]

id like to come down and see your setup Shiner seeing as though you are just round the corner.

Ill give you a call

By all means do.  My static setup is not at home though.  It's in a large shed that I rent in the Smallfield area.  I say "rent" loosely.  I actually do a bit of free of charge window cleaning for it.  If you like, I can show you how I use WFP as we discussed a while back.  Not saying my way is the best way but I get by on it.
Look forward to hearing from you.