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ianharper

green carpet
« on: September 22, 2007, 08:09:40 pm »


Green Seal the Deal

Green Seal is a non-profit organization dedicated to safeguarding the air quality in your home from the toxins found in paints, adhesives, cleaning solutions, and paper products like facial tissue, bath tissue, and coffee filters. They look at the entire life cycle of the products from chemical composition to delivery methods, and support only environmentally preferable products. You can learn more online at www.greenseal.org.
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Please be aware that manufacturers may not have the Green Seal certification for all of their products, often only their green offerings. Some companies like Yolo Colorhouse have their entire line of paint products certified, while others like Benjamin Moore have a specific line of Green Seal paints (their EcoSpec Interior line). Look for the Green Seal label and breathe easy.

Don't Get the Wool Pulled Over Your Eyes

Carpet is probably one of the most confusing products on the green market. Many carpet manufacturers are making claims that their products include recycled content, can be recycled, and/or are made from renewable resources. There are two organizations that are certifying carpet products, and the most prominent is the Carpet and Rug Institute (CRI). Although the Carpet and Rug Institute is setting some standards for green carpeting and carpet cleaning products, they are an industry supported organization and therefore are not an unbiased voice. Their certifications are not about green claims overall, but rather about indoor air quality issues. The Green Label Plus certification by CRI is recognized in the LEED rating system for safe Indoor Air Quality. Any other claims made by a carpet manufacturer should be certified by an independent 3rd party organization like Scientific Certification Systems, and not just the carpet manufacturer themselves.

Natural fibers like wool, silk, and jute are going to be your greenest options for carpeting. However, keep in mind that the more wool carpet we make, the more sheep we need to have, and the more methane gas that is produced. There will always be trade-offs with carpet. You can find carpet dealers near you that will provide an assortment of both natural and synthetic products for you home at Low Impact Living in our Carpet category.

ianharper


carpet guy

Re: green carpet
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2007, 10:38:49 pm »
Ian

What products and energy is used in the manufacture of fake wood flooring, how does it balance with carpet manufacturing.

ianharper

Re: green carpet
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2007, 07:44:04 am »
Carpet Guy

your right, what i looking for is the justification for carpet over other types of floors. when building a case against i look for the positives. like what carpet manufactures makes green based carpets, which one cares etc.

There is a big case against some stone floors that they damage the environment.

but as you point out do say wood floorsuse lots of engery in the manfactor process but, they last longer so is the energy for the same sq ft of carpet over their life span?

its well and good having basic knowledge of these issues but its our job along with the carpet manufacturer to convince people with our marketing message that carpet is greener. for that we need depth of knowledge.

The green type customer has this type of knowledge and will not be fooled into the "cashing In" type marketing.

I am at the moment trying to get a wikipedia working on my server and its this type of issue where everyone will be able to add to it that i hope will build up this depth.

Respect

Ian Harper

The Great One

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Re: green carpet
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2007, 08:09:06 am »
Hi

Guys this whole green issue is total rubbish IMO.

Green this & that, we're greener than they are, he'she4 is etc.

Green is just a way to charge more money for something as with the latest £2000 extra for gas guzzling cars, just another unneeded tax, I found this which I absolutely agree with

Every day on the news i hear soemthing about global warming...its even having an effect on how people run their businesses. What no one is addressing is could this be a natural prcess?? I think that the answer is yes. Firstly, the earth has been warming up since before the industrial revolution when CO2 emmissions never posed a threat because there was barely any of it.
Not only this but there are many geographical theories that can explain why the Earth is warming up. We are currently in an inter-glacial period which would explain why glaciers are melting...in about 20,000 years time, they will start to grow again as we enter a new glacial period.
Not only this, but Malankovitche's theory could also provide a logical explanation as to why the Earth is warming up. Every now and then the Earth shifts its axis (this is called the 'Wobble') meaning that the poles can be facing further towards or away from the sun, this can determine whether or not the ice caps melt. Another part of his theory is that the Earth, every 46 000 years changes it orbit. This creates different weather conditions and temperatures. At this current time, our orbit brings us closer to the Sun meaning an increase in temperature. This could also explain why there has been an increase in hurricanes recently.
When Sky News repeatedly comment on Calving occuring on glaciers, blaming it on global warming, it almost makes me laugh. It is a natural process which has increased as we are not in a glcial period. With less positive degree days, the less accumulation and more calving occurs. Remember this when the next glacier sheds its ice.
I am not denying that CO2 emmissions are having an effect. They are damaging our ozone layer and there is no doubt that they certainly dont help the situation. I am of the opinion that this is a natural process backed up with lots of evidence. We have never before experienced the natural phenomenon that is Global Warming but we have not realised that this is a ntural process. We are showing our tendency to come up with rational explanations for everything. Global Warming exists but we have blown it way out of proporton; like the way English poeple act when we just get an inch of snow...irrationally.
We are letting this dominate our lives and it is sad.


Couldn't agree much more.

I do use the Envirodri system as you guys know, which is as green as it gets, but my main reason to use it was simplicity and down time.

Cannot believe that the world has turned into a herd of 6 Billion sheep, eager to believe what is churned out instead of looking at the hard evidence of ice core samples and earths very long history of warming and cooling.

It has gone on for Millenia and it will continue to do so, we as humans have been on this earth a very short time, not long enough to witness the natural changes that occur.

The Government have jumped on this bandwagon with endless taxes, bet they can barely believe their luck!

Regards

Martin 8)

ianharper

Re: green carpet
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2007, 11:31:23 am »
martin

its because of the end of the cold war that the government where looking for a new idea to keep us in fear and it just so happened that the scientist where at that time able to get the ear of the government that the control has now gone this way.

with regards to us and if we believe or not the point is that as you say the bandwagon or trend as i like to call it. there is a group of people that believe or just want to make a change in the way they live their life's that comes with a reason to use us.

I think that most people look at the green issue and think that they must commit to it a 100% this is not the case in my view. you just need to make one change at a time. true or not, its ethical way to live.

My point here is that those that are hardcore will have a great depth of knowledge and if we are to understand what they need we must have more than a basic knowledge. if we are not to be seen as on the bandwagon.

respect

ian harper