[lands]

With doggy wee on it. (Customer put it out on washing line to see if rain washed it out so I guess it'll have mildew too now.

Can I use usual methods (subject to tests of course) such as urine neutraliser and odour neutraliser (water or solvent based dependent on tests).

Any help would be appreciated.

Pete

[Ken Wainwright]

Genuine Afghans are prone to colour bleed, especially red. Rugs post c1940 will ruck/buckle when cleaned, sometimes just from atmospheric moisture. Chances are that madam's efforts may already have promoted these problems or perhaps made them more likely when cleaning takes place, so test, test, test.

Any doubts, use a low moisture system with soft brushes such as Host/Envirodri dry compound or spray and brush with a shampoo (not rotary machine) or dry solvent (no good for urine contamination)

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[lands]

Thanks Ken

Don't have that sort of agitation equipment. Would fibre fri be ok to use then pile brush, leave and Vac?

This is what I have used on Sisal before

Pete

[Ken Wainwright]

I presume you mean Fibre Dri Pete? A dry extraction compound?  Yes it could be done this way. Tough going though. Keep looking for pile damage all of the time you're working. You'll still need to neutralise the urine contamination first though which will involve water with consequent risks. Back and face probably. Allow to dry before dry compound.

First and foremost though, as you will be well aware, the pre-vac is absolutely essential. Back and face repeated for as long as is necessary (this can run into hours in extreme cases).

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[lands]

Thanks again Ken, Will buy you a beer on the 6th Sep if you are going

Pete

[Liahona]

Pete, the best advice so far is from your customer.  Forget all the other nonsense, put the carpet on the floor and rinse and rinse and rinse.  It is the only way you will get the pee out and any odour along with it.

I understand it can be a bleeder but if it was going to bleed it would have already done so.

Solvents will do next to nothing in this instance.  And dry compounds arent worth the time and or effort as they simply wont correct your problem to a 100% "clean".

If needs be, put it on a slope and let the hose run over it.  For hours if needs be, similar to a nebulus (spelling) type of clean.

Best, Dave

P.S. Ken or anyone, why would you even entertain to vac a rug that has urine in it.  It would then take you longer to clean and sanitize the vac than cleaning the textile.  Pee stains should never have a vac put over them.  Of course this is just my opinion.

[Steve Chapman]

Dave,

if this type of rug buckles when wet cleaning, would you suggest just blocking it when drying like some other types?  Is there anything else you can do?


regards
steve

[Ken Wainwright]

Dave

In spite of my advice offered, I agree with you!  However, when making recommendations to people who I've no knowledge of experience, knowledge or equipment level, I would always err on the side of caution.  A significant risk with these rugs can also be dye migrating to fringes which could be creating a new problem for inexperienced technicians.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[*paul_moss]

Only if it has got fringes on it Ken 

[lands]

Paul you sorted that thing out we spoke about. Mines already paid fofr the whole year twice (in just two weeks

PETE

[*paul_moss]

Sort of Pete.
Tried it for one month to see how it goes.
One week in and no calls yet. 

[Liahona]

Steve, if it does buckle then yes you can just block it afterwards.  Having said that most rucks and or buckles usually fall out themselves with out any remedial services needed.

If you know that the textile is going to move then on that rare occasion you can pin it before you clean it.

I would clean it first and then take care of any movement if it occured.

You have my number if you need it, best, Dave.