[cleanability]

Been wondering this. Popped into my local Carpet Rite today. One of the dearest carpets on sale was a Belgian Wilton £43 a square metre. There were cheaper "genuine" wool Axminters there. Do we slag them off because of the shrinkage problem? Or are the dearer Belgian Wiltons/Axminsters in actual fact a "quality" carpet ?

Chris

[john rees]

sounds like they've messed the pricing up? get straight back there tomorrow and get your whole house carpeted in cheap wool axminster! do the shed and garage too!

                                  All the best
                                                    John

[cleanability]

Just another thought. It could be I'm tight as a ducks rear end but paying £40-£60 a squre yard for carpet seems madness. Yes it'll last 30years but do you want to look at the same carpet for 30yrs. Rather go cheaper and change it after a few years.

Chris

[prodry]

You say Belgium Wilton so I assume you mean woven carpet with a 100% synthetic yarn not just a woven carpet made in Belgium. The term Belgium Wilton is a bit of a trade term  for the crap they used to send us. so I would be surprised if carpetright actually call them that. I assume you identified it as a Belgium Wilton.

Synthetic wiltons have their place as contract carpets in hotels, airplanes, trains and other high traffic areas. They can be this expensive and some of the quality contract carpets are even more depending on pattern, quality and were they came from, warranty etc.

You say that the Axministers were cheaper, Axminster is not a sign of quality anymore, Axminster Carpets Ltd make and import and sell under their name tufted and flatbed weave carpets. Punters buy them thinking they will last 30+ years like the one they are replacing. Axminster can nowadays be in the name of the carpet without the carpet even being made in England or even being woven or wool.

Belgium Wiltons properly fitted and properly cleaned are not a problem, problems arise when the cleaner doesn’t know what he is doing and/or the carpet hasn't been properly fitted.

Also Carpetright like all retailers have to advertise something for 28 days before they can discount it. Most of these retailers buy the carpet in knowing what its worth and don’t expect to sell any of it, then overnight the price drops to 50 or even 75% off and they sell it like there’s no tomorrow. We all fall it, that’s why they have so many sales.

[Len Gribble]

Rumour has it that CR buy’s most if not all there carpets in Belgium @ about £5sqm but to be fair Mr Harris sorry me Lord needs to make a profit.

Len

[*paul_moss]

Len you old dog  , not heard from you for a while.Must ring you.Tomorrow.
Paul

[Len Gribble]

Paul

Cheeky git that the wife, love her.

Just had a look at your site nice, I also got Award Winning, so snap!

Was the edge the other side of the van? Hope to see some improvement.


Len

[cleanability]

I can confirm it was a Belgian Wilton cos i did a burnt test in sittu which triggered the sprinklers and possibly Rainbow will be there in the morning drying the store out 

[woodman]

BW @ £43 a sq mt 

 
Some one must have been playing with the price cards, perhaps some kids had been in and were having a laugh because no BW would be £43 a sq mt and Carpet Right would not have marked up at that price.

Are you sure it wasn't £4.30 a sq mt seems a bit more like it.

Why would you do a burn test in the shop when the carpet samples have the fibre content and construction on the back of every sample (it's the law).  If it was a BW it would have said 100% polypropelene.

Prodry;  I think the guys at Axminster might take issue with you over questioning the quality of their carpets,

Axminster most definitely still is a sign of quality and Axminster still manufacture their carpets in the town as always. Most are 80/20 now days and weights vary but still a very good/top quality carpet.

[prodry]

Woodman

Axminster Carpets Ltd make  and sell under their name tufted and flatbed weave carpets. People are paying top money for these carpets because they have Axminster in the name. They are however not Axminsters ie. not a woven carpet. I am not sure if they import them I was told this but cannot back this up.

Increasingly I get called to clean an Axminster, that either turns out to be B/wilton or a Tufted carpet or flatbed weave.  I would not question the quality of a wool wooven Axminster from Axminster carpets ltd, I have them in my home. I would quetion the people that are selling these carpets to the customers.

[ABLECLEAN]

Hi Prodry

You are right and wrong!!   You are right about Carpetright hiking thr price of the belgian crap so they can drop it to the normal price in their sale. But to suggest That Axminster Carpets (Of Axminster) make anything less than fabulous high quality woven wool carpets is wrong!!! I was in the carpet trade for 20 years and bought carpets from them throughout that time and I can assure you that their carpets are up there with the finest.

Neo

[prodry]

ableclean

they are now selling tufted and flatbed weave carpets, the flatbed weave carpets are quality for what they are, however their tufted carpets are no better then any othe half decent manufacturer. The difference between their tufted carpets and the others is price, people are buying these expecting them to be a quality carpet and they are not compared to a woven carpet

[woodman]

Can't say I ever come across an 'Axminster' as you describe.

Who calls you out to clean them? if its the client they will often describe their carpets as being either Wilton or Axminster only for us the CC to show up and find its a BW or nylon plain cut pile.

If Carpet Right or Allied sent you out to clean one of their BW or Axminsters only for you to find out its a moody one, then thats a different matter altogether.

I will always tell the client they have a synthetic carpet if thats what it is.

Its in the description, many customers of the like of Carpet Right will tell you they bought a Wilton, they have, but its a BW.Every one knows you can not buy a true Wilton at £5.99 a sq mt, even Mrs Client who's house you are in but she can tell the neighbours he carpet is a 'Wilton'.

Its up to us to identify it, inform them  and clean accordingly.

By the way I still can not agree that CR would pass a BW off as £43.00 Wilton, they would be hammered.

[CARPET KNIGHTS]

I have done the tour of the axminster factory when the ncca did their roadshow there.

They do still make the fine quality carpets we are all acustomed to and also now have 2 wilton loams (sp) they do also have a factory in ireland producing wiltons which are all shipped to axminster for quality control which may i add is a very intense process.

Cheers Goron