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ned

working in wind
« on: December 05, 2006, 04:31:37 pm »
how do you stop leaving marks from drying out to quickly ,out of the wind  ok no problems  cheers

Re: working in wind
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2006, 04:42:12 pm »
how do you stop leaving marks from drying out to quickly ,out of the wind  ok no problems  cheers

Ned, what do you mean?  Are you talking about windy days and WFP cleaning or trad?

This isn't as daft as it sounds; some WFP users don't like using the pole on dry windy days since they think the wind blows dust/impurities onto wet windows and they dry dirty.  'My' jury is still out on this mind; I think it would have to be a really dusty environment for this to happen.

If you mean trad, I haven't experienced the wind drying out windows as quick as the sun will do in the height of Summer.  I have experienced scary moments on ladders or the wind blowing soap suds onto nicely squeegied windows.

What do you mean?




ned

Re: working in wind
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2006, 04:51:20 pm »
wfp it was very windy they looked like they had not been done they were ground floor nothing above yet out of the wind as normal

craig jwc

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Re: working in wind
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2006, 04:53:14 pm »
Very windy where i am today.

I just makes sure a i give a good rinse.

Had no complaints to date.

Craig

Moderator David@stives

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Re: working in wind
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2006, 05:01:12 pm »
wind ! wind ! tell me about it, it must of been a force elevnteen gale near me today.

I felt a bit guilty when i held my hand out for the £40 on a few jobs today , funny thing was the windows were just as black by the time i had finished doing them.

Theres nowt like cheek is there, I have to admit my customers saw the funny side.

Dave

Re: working in wind
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2006, 05:06:19 pm »
I felt a bit guilty when i held my hand out for the £40 on a few jobs today , funny thing was the windows were just as black by the time i had finished doing them.

Dave

It was fairly windy here, but I can't say the windows were black by the time I'd finished doing them.  I did do one 30 quid account today all WFP and I don't think there's been any problems with it.

But hey, even if there was, the regular payment ensures they have a regular, reliable, insured and professional(ish) window cleaner.

Let's call it a 'retaining fee'.  Childminders charge this even when they're not childminding your kids (like when you go on holiday) and if you don't pay it; you lose their services.

ned

Re: working in wind
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2006, 05:13:09 pm »
not to far from you then dave was working near mylor today very windy

Moderator David@stives

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Re: working in wind
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2006, 07:27:16 pm »
Ned

Good money near you then,

I think that was the windiest i have worked in for a long time, I only carried on because i kept seeing other shiners hard at it.

Dave

dai

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Re: working in wind
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2006, 08:54:13 pm »
Yes, Thank God for WFP. I couldn't of worked off ladders this last couple of days.
Those nasty sudden gusts that come unexpected, can be killers when working on a ladder.   Dai

master cleaner

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Re: working in wind
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2006, 12:39:54 am »
no wind in rotherham today but i could hardly stand up while collecting on sunday

gary

gaza

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Re: working in wind
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2006, 03:50:02 am »
Ive had a few of those sill clinging moments in my time with body pushed against the window,a w/c I know fell in the wind over the weekend,fell into an uncut rose bush ,GOOD HIS FACE IS A MESS scratches all over him, lucky him nothing broken.

 gaza
IM AT THAT AGE MY BACK GOES OUT MORE THAN I DO

Ian_Giles

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Re: working in wind
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2006, 05:48:21 am »
When the weather is wet and very widy, I feel guilty doing houses WFP as I know full well WFP doesn't do a top job.
Though these are also the kind of conditions that are very dangerous to work off ladders.
I try to cherry pick houses or try to find sheltered spots.

I don't find the rain to be much of a problem, nor light to medium winds, trad does a more reliable job in bad conditions, but even so, the windows are soon mucked up again where the weather is swirling around.

Commercial work is different, weekly shops have to be done regardless, but even on large commercial offices, if it is monthly and you know full well that half the windows are not going to be cleaned propely then I would put them off for a day or too until the weather settles down.
If an account is contracted to, say, the first week in every month, or even more specifically to a set date or day then you just carry on regardless.

I understand the arguement about paying the bills, got a living to earn and so on, but my own personal conscience just won't let me do work that I know is actually a waste of time.
And that applied just as equally when I was full time trad too.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Sir Squeaky

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Re: working in wind
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2006, 08:16:07 am »
Ian, you're still human!
I thought you'd become another "stuff the customer" pole user...
Nice to see a wfp user with a consience (most of the time).
It has changed you, but not as much as some. ;)

Back to the topic...
If you desperately need to work every day, then you're doing something wrong the rest of the time.
This job should pay your bills in a couple of days.

Enjoy your day off.
If it happens for a few days it's a pain, but you shouldn't go under because of it. ::)


pjulk

Re: working in wind
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2006, 05:23:49 pm »
I was feeling ok this morning but did have a bit of Wind this afternoon but i kept on working  ;D

Paul

pylofm

Re: working in wind
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2006, 08:17:35 am »
Had a customer call this morning..and cancell as she thinks it is too windy and rainy...which I believe it is not...however it is a 48quid job each month...despite my terms saying that we work in all weather unless we decide it is not suitable...

Trouble is that as we only have 70 customers....losing another just is not an option as the present...

I hate being 'ruled' by the customer...

I long for the day that losing a customer is not such a heartache.

It would appear true what other have said hear about customers not showing their 'colours' for 3 to 4 cleans..

Thats my moan out of the way.

Have a good day everyone.

Cheers
Dave.

S_RICHARDSON

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Re: working in wind
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2006, 08:19:22 am »
Had a customer call this morning..and cancell as she thinks it is too windy and rainy...which I believe it is not...however it is a 48quid job each month...despite my terms saying that we work in all weather unless we decide it is not suitable...

Trouble is that as we only have 70 customers....losing another just is not an option as the present...

I hate being 'ruled' by the customer...

I long for the day that losing a customer is not such a heartache.

It would appear true what other have said hear about customers not showing their 'colours' for 3 to 4 cleans..

Thats my moan out of the way.

Have a good day everyone.

Cheers
Dave.
Why not just make the job £50.00 instead of £48.00 much easier I think! On both sides!

pylofm

Re: working in wind
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2006, 04:30:45 pm »
Hi, the reason it is 48 quid is that in euro's it is 70..so it is just a rough conversion  ;) cheers Dave.