[Lee.]

HI
I have a friend who wants wfp. he has a car but says that he can change that for a van if he needs to. He lives on the third storey in a block of flats, has no access to water. I have recommended a van base system to him or a trolley but somehow he needs to produce the water. he could probably get tap water from his friends but would feel bad taking their water for hours on end, day in day out. The TDS in his area is 280 so using just a di cannister is going to be expensive. Is there a fast way of filling a 250L tank with filtered water in about 15 - 30 mins?

Any help would be gratefully appreciated

Lee

[jeff1]

Hi Lee

read this Topic, there is words on a draper submersable pump in there by JM123, that will empty a 1000 ltr tank in 4 minutes

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=24703.0

[Lee.]

sorry must of got my words in a twoddle.

I really need to know if there is a way of purifying 250ltrs of tap water in 15 - 30 mins?

Lee

[Ian_Giles]

Yes.

That isn't a problem, a good 4040 R/O system will do that no problem at all, the downside is that a membrane of this size is £500+

There is also a Merlin system that is considerably cheaper than this that can also produce pure water very quickly (providing you have  a high enough mains pressure)
The Merlin isn't as efficient as the larger and more expensive 4040 R/O and generally will return pure water prior to going through the resin at a higher TDS level than the 4040. but I would have thought that to be a good option for your friend.

I'm sure others with other systems will also contribute to this thread shortly too.

you can always ring up and talk to the people at places such as Cleantech or Gardiners, they are well known for offering very good advice.

Ian

[sair]

our systems make in region of 3-5 liters aminute idon t know of any that will fill  faster 250 liters at the best case will make 250 in an hour next too that its an di/only system or filling from a static

[petski2]

Are there any wfpers in his area that sell water??

[Ian_Giles]

Neat System Sair

I was over optimistic in the 30 minutes for a 250l tank obviously!
But to do so in an hour is still very quick indeed.

We mustn't allow you guys to talk prices directly on the forum, or to beat your own drum too loudly, but a link to a site showing the kind of prices for the system on show or the individual parts would be most welcome

Ian

[Lee.]

that system looks great sair ,

Buying water was a good idea, but I dont know anyone who sells it in oxford.

maybe a good 40x40 ro is the option, but they are v. expensive especially if it would have to be replaced often in the hard water area he lives.


I think his problem also lies in the fact that he has to get tap water from a friends home. He would feel very bad parking his van up for an hour and processing the water outside their home everyday (sometimes twice a day ) to keep filling the tank. I wondered if there was something that would allow him just to fill a tank with tap water and processes it as he uses it? is that how the brodex system works?  or maybe he could have an extra 250l tank to fill with tap water and process it, as he is driving to his first customer, into a secondary tank?
Any thoughts
thank you for your ideas, please keep them coming.

many thanks
lee

[cybersye]

Lee, I had the very same problem myself and asked similar questions on here. Its not an easy one.
Problem with filling up with tap water and then trying to filter it at point of use other than with di is you need much more water maybe 3 times more than what actually ends up filtered.
A merlin van fitted maybe a good option if he could fill up at houses as he's working?

I live in a first floor flat, I solved my problem by fitting a 240 ltr wheelie bin in a reduntant airing cupboard space, I use a merlin to filter, fills in just over 2 hours. I have a sub pump feeding a 1/2 " hose down to my front door where it plugs into a reel to my van, then takes 30 mins to transfer to a 250 ltr tank in van, I fill van of an evening and refill wheelie bin so I always have a reserve of water and never run out, not perfect situation, but hey it works! and was the only solution in my situation.

Hope some of this advice helps, theres usually a way round things! maybe others on here will have some more ideas

Simon

[cybersye]

Just another thought, how about if he did get water from a mates, would there be room for a staic and tranfer hose? I used to do this however my mate would constantly forget to refill the tank and I had no access if he were'nt there, which is why I had to look for an alternative.
He could always offer to pay a small rent for the convenience or a proportion of the water bill (even more beneficial to his friend if not on a meter)

Simon

[Lee.]

Simon, 
xcellent Idea's, especially the wheelie bin. I think you may of cracked it!

Thanks everyone.

[cybersye]

have a look around an industrial estate, I got lucky and found a 240 ltr dumped and abandoned with a load of rubbish and oil in it, else they cost about £80 I think, or get a large water butt
Simon