cheers Tosh,
I Mean it when i say i enjoy it but i will be glad when a filthy first clean is an odd one here and there,
and you are right they all seem hard to get at or very high or something on them lines.
Also being in a company car for ten years has made me slightly unfit,
i thought i was ok, im not overweight, and visit the gymm sometimes,
but with this job i can feel myself getting fitter by the day,
I just wish it was every FULL day, as just when i get into it for a couple of days, i have to stop as no work for a day or two, so i feel slightly in limbo at the its like starting all over again with the fitness thing..
but its brilliant this forum, and all the guys are terrific, so thanks again, god i cant wait to build it.

Gary.