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Slacky

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Working at 60 feet
« on: January 22, 2018, 07:08:02 pm »
Ive been asked to put in a price for some prolonged high level work. 250 - 300 windows at that height, with 5 additional floors below.

Whats it like working at that height for a prolonged period of time? Would you be able to knock the high level windows out over a two day period or would it be more like 3 days?

Also how is it moving the pole at sort of height?

The highest Ive worked solely with a pole is probably 50'-55' but its only 15 windows in one visit. Thats pretty hard work but admittedly its with a Super Max 47 with a couple of extensions.

All suggestions gratefully received.

Splash & dash

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 09:08:47 pm »
We have some windows at 80 feet but only about 30 or so it’s a lot harder work especially with the slightest breaz, after I’ve done that I have a little break , working at 60 feet I would say it depends on the type of windows are they deep recessed or like office blocks with all windows in a line that you can slide the pole onto the next window , I wouldn’t want to do more than 30 - 45 muinets at a time at that height we take it in turns Do a bit each be very careful in the slightest of breases unless it’s a deep recessed window as there might be no wind on the ground but at that height there probably will be , it’s easy to get caught out with the wind blowing one way on the ground and at 60 feet it can be blowing the opposite direction one the pole starts going it’s very difficult to stop it if this happens all you can try and do is stick the brush into a corner of the window and make sure that you are stood directly in line with the top of the pole at all times , hope this makes some sense

Slacky

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 10:05:40 pm »
They're not the easiest.



Splash & dash

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 10:28:31 pm »
Looking at that how are you going to do the bottom pains with those railings there ? Sash windows arnt the best we do a hotel at 80 feet with similar windows , once they are up to speed they arnt to bad , I would do a run at the top then keep dropping down a floor so as not to be doing maximum height for so long . Good luck with it and price it well

Slacky

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 10:43:11 pm »
Those railings in reality are no more than two inches above the bottom of the glass. The brush splay will deal with that. It was explained the sills wouldn’t get done.

Tom-01

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 07:23:22 am »
Can you get to the very top ones ok with the cornice sticking out?

Slacky

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 07:50:58 am »
Can you get to the very top ones ok with the cornice sticking out?

Yes, I think so. They're doable, with a goose-neck extension on.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 08:07:18 am »
Do some from the inside?
It's a game of three halves!

Slacky

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2018, 08:28:58 am »
Do some from the inside?

They're occupied. Unworkable IMO.  Also sash, from insides?

dazmond

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2018, 09:39:41 am »
your gonna have to have one hell of a gooseneck  extension for the top windows matt(with the fence being so close to the building)super duper longest one gardiners do methinks....
price higher/work harder!

Splash & dash

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2018, 01:10:48 pm »
Can you get to the very top ones ok with the cornice sticking out?





Yes I don’t think that should be a problem providing you can stand well back from the building looks fine , not so sure about getting good splay on the brush at that height though , we use stiff supream brushes with hot at 60 + feet it’s diffic to get that amount of pressure to splay them much

Slacky

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2018, 01:24:31 pm »
Im thinking cherry picker to about 30' - 40' then pole the top two or maybe 3 floors from there.

Splash & dash

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2018, 01:40:58 pm »
Im thinking cherry picker to about 30' - 40' then pole the top two or maybe 3 floors from there.





Yes if you have access for one but it will add to the cost of the job that could be money in your pocket rather than paying for cherry picker : unless you add the price for it on top of your existing price , also are your staff ipaf licenced ? And do you have harness etc as this kit isn’t cheap to buy

Smudger

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2018, 02:57:41 pm »
Im thinking cherry picker to about 30' - 40' then pole the top two or maybe 3 floors from there.

thats the way id go -  i have some recycling centres with visitor exhibitions that are on the 7th floor and they just couldn't be done wfp as the building rose up and over a hill and from the 6th floor had a constant breeze so we used a cherry picker and used normal super light poles - job done in half the time truing to faff with a 70ft pole

you can get spider lifts or a narrow MEWP that does 15 meters that weighs less than a car with small footprint from around 150 quid a day

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Slacky

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 05:46:13 pm »
Im thinking cherry picker to about 30' - 40' then pole the top two or maybe 3 floors from there.






Yes if you have access for one but it will add to the cost of the job that could be money in your pocket rather than paying for cherry picker : unless you add the price for it on top of your existing price , also are your staff ipaf licenced ? And do you have harness etc as this kit isn’t cheap to buy

Im IPAF with the gear.

Slacky

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2018, 05:46:31 pm »
Im thinking cherry picker to about 30' - 40' then pole the top two or maybe 3 floors from there.

thats the way id go -  i have some recycling centres with visitor exhibitions that are on the 7th floor and they just couldn't be done wfp as the building rose up and over a hill and from the 6th floor had a constant breeze so we used a cherry picker and used normal super light poles - job done in half the time truing to faff with a 70ft pole

you can get spider lifts or a narrow MEWP that does 15 meters that weighs less than a car with small footprint from around 150 quid a day

Darran

Thanks Darren.

Frankybadboy

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2018, 08:05:55 pm »
Im thinking cherry picker to about 30' - 40' then pole the top two or maybe 3 floors from there.






Yes if you have access for one but it will add to the cost of the job that could be money in your pocket rather than paying for cherry picker : unless you add the price for it on top of your existing price , also are your staff ipaf licenced ? And do you have harness etc as this kit isn’t cheap to buy

Im IPAF with the gear. and no idea ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Slacky

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2018, 09:44:52 pm »
You're closer to the truth than you realise.

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2018, 07:28:56 am »
can you not do them from the top ?  just got a similar job in muswell  hill and its much quicker one guy doing the top on ropes and the other wfping the rest

Slacky

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Re: Working at 60 feet
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2018, 07:39:18 am »
can you not do them from the top ?  just got a similar job in muswell  hill and its much quicker one guy doing the top on ropes and the other wfping the rest

They don't have any abseil point installed atm. It will be an option at some time in the future I imagine, but not right now.