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dazmond

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2017, 08:08:33 pm »
as my round has got better and better and more profitable then my debt list has grown naturally.i used to be annoyed when i was owed £100 a few years ago!now i dont bat an eyelid when its a grand or more.

"rolling debt" is part and parcel of running a small business.normally im on top of it a bit more but lots of customers are away this time of year plus some  commercial are slow to pay.
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Marc Stock

Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2017, 03:27:32 pm »
No Doshy?

No Washy!

Dave Anderson

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2017, 03:58:37 pm »
The worst case scenario is winter is here, van needs a service, thingy or doodad, wife wants a bag, kids want erh everything...its crimbo and whilst having a nice debt list can be thought of as a good thing.... a bird in the hand and all that ;)
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dazmond

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2017, 05:39:51 pm »
The worst case scenario is winter is here, van needs a service, thingy or doodad, wife wants a bag, kids want erh everything...its crimbo and whilst having a nice debt list can be thought of as a good thing.... a bird in the hand and all that ;)

no kids,no wife,new van,loads of spares including poles etc,£10,000 emergency fund. ;)
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Tosh

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2017, 10:13:19 pm »
What i lose per year on non payment i more than get back on tips


 ??? ???
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dazmond

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2017, 10:26:16 pm »
What i lose per year on non payment i more than get back on tips


 ??? ???

i think he s on about xmas tips matt.i know customers down south dont do this generally but they do up north.its still a bit of a tradition. :)
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Tosh

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2017, 11:58:06 pm »
I don't get it when people say that kind of thing. It sounds like it doesn't matter he loses out on non-payers as he makes it up on tips. Well if the non-payers paid and he had tips he'd have more money. You're still losing out.


"Oh it's okay if some don't pay, I get tips at Christmas". That's nuts.
*A HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE - THE SHORT STORY* 'Hydrogen is a light, odorless gas, which, given enough time, turns into people.'

nathankaye

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2017, 12:07:53 am »
It be good if we could, but i would love to charge interest on debts owed.

Or i might get 2 mates to dress up like bouncers and get them to stand behind me and one evening each month go collecting on these customers  ;D
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paulswindows

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2017, 08:29:15 am »
When the next clean is due, do "half" the job. Plenty of soap on the brush eg  undiluted virosol to leave every window thoroughly streaky with soap, Then a  polite note through the door explaining that you are very sorry that you have been unable to complete the job as you have run out of water and need payment to buy some more pure water making resin. Request for full payment for any previous cleans plus the current clean before you can finish the job.  You won't have  done anything bad or unprofessional which could potentially get you into trouble (like egging the windows). At least if they still wont pay then you will have the satisfaction of getting some revenge!

p1w1

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2017, 12:53:17 pm »
When the next clean is due, do "half" the job. Plenty of soap on the brush eg  undiluted virosol to leave every window thoroughly streaky with soap, Then a  polite note through the door explaining that you are very sorry that you have been unable to complete the job as you have run out of water and need payment to buy some more pure water making resin. Request for full payment for any previous cleans plus the current clean before you can finish the job.  You won't have  done anything bad or unprofessional which could potentially get you into trouble (like egging the windows). At least if they still wont pay then you will have the satisfaction of getting some revenge!
Yes brilliant idea waste your time soaping windows before hand and then make it a harder clean when you go back, your a smart cookie  ;D

p1w1

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2017, 01:00:57 pm »
for small amounts we finding that going back with a mix of dirty water and egg and fairy all mixed togather then brushed on to the window makes you feel loads better , done 3 houses , 1 block of flats and a hotel this year so far
We all believe you've done that..honest  ::)roll  ;D

slap bash

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2017, 03:28:33 pm »
It be good if we could, but i would love to charge interest on debts owed.

Or i might get 2 mates to dress up like bouncers and get them to stand behind me and one evening each month go collecting on these customers  ;D
You can charge a fee for late payment I have always done it. It on my invoices as a admin fee of 3 quid P/m its : to defray costs of chasing up payments. I also state that any legal fee due to none payment will be for the account of the person receiving my services.I don`t like to write off debt.

dazmond

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2017, 08:40:38 pm »
how much do you end up writing off though over the course of a year?its under a £100 for me(usually under £50).

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paulswindows

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2017, 10:23:05 pm »
When the next clean is due, do "half" the job. Plenty of soap on the brush eg  undiluted virosol to leave every window thoroughly streaky with soap, Then a  polite note through the door explaining that you are very sorry that you have been unable to complete the job as you have run out of water and need payment to buy some more pure water making resin. Request for full payment for any previous cleans plus the current clean before you can finish the job.  You won't have  done anything bad or unprofessional which could potentially get you into trouble (like egging the windows). At least if they still wont pay then you will have the satisfaction of getting some revenge!
Yes brilliant idea waste your time soaping windows before hand and then make it a harder clean when you go back, your a smart cookie  ;D
I don't think it's a waste of time. It doesn't take long to soap the windows if you are wfp.  Quick rinse off once you are paid and doesn't even have to be a perfect job as you won't be wanting to keep them as a customer will you? Got a result on the single time ive tried it so far

nathankaye

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Re: Why some make it so difficult
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2017, 11:15:23 pm »
When the next clean is due, do "half" the job. Plenty of soap on the brush eg  undiluted virosol to leave every window thoroughly streaky with soap, Then a  polite note through the door explaining that you are very sorry that you have been unable to complete the job as you have run out of water and need payment to buy some more pure water making resin. Request for full payment for any previous cleans plus the current clean before you can finish the job.  You won't have  done anything bad or unprofessional which could potentially get you into trouble (like egging the windows). At least if they still wont pay then you will have the satisfaction of getting some revenge!
Yes brilliant idea waste your time soaping windows before hand and then make it a harder clean when you go back, your a smart cookie  ;D
I don't think it's a waste of time. It doesn't take long to soap the windows if you are wfp.  Quick rinse off once you are paid and doesn't even have to be a perfect job as you won't be wanting to keep them as a customer will you? Got a result on the single time ive tried it so far

I thought the point being that said person wouldnt be going back to clean them.
For it to come to this stage, all you're wanting is the money owed. If they pay half or full for this "smearing business" I would just take that for interest on the debt
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