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the king

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2017, 10:05:13 pm »
if you get a van and you have to go down farm tracks ect then dont get a vivaro there crap off road and get stuck way to easy  :'(

Lakes and Pennine

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2017, 09:41:31 pm »
Set up correctly, a 4x4 can be a brilliant tool. I'd go for an L200. We have two and they are bulletproof.
Apart from the head gasket going at 100k steve

Plankton

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2017, 12:04:20 am »
Just read about the Navara's this morning regards the snapping in half. Chap put his in for a service and the garage phoned him to say that it required some work but not to bother as it jut snapped in half.... What the heck dude!

Plankton

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2017, 12:25:16 am »
I like the pickups but I'm a pain in the arse and tend to change things about often.
https://goo.gl/photos/3Nuz38HocyK6x1638
This pic I've got a Wydale 350l upright for softwash, Facelift 325 compact and at the tailgate I've got my trad gear and softwash pump box.
https://goo.gl/photos/zNzUXb4DXPr69vg47
Couple of big ladders on top and on the trailer there's another tank, pw, tarps, cones etc. Another day it'll be gutter vac, genny etc on the trailer or ditch the big tank and use the 350l for the pw, backpack for softwash and I can fit the genny and vac on the trailer.

EandM

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2017, 10:01:43 am »
Just read about the Navara's this morning regards the snapping in half. Chap put his in for a service and the garage phoned him to say that it required some work but not to bother as it jut snapped in half.... What the heck dude!

It seems to be an issue not just with the quality of the steel but with the ability of the design to evenly distribute the load weight. Some snapped in half because they rotted through, which is pretty poor considering their age  but at least understandable. Others simply snapped with no prior warning - which is appalling !

Smurf

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2017, 11:49:02 am »
For me a pickup truck or crew cab type van would be a total waste of time as need to carry a lot of kit about.  The workhorse you chose is what makes you money or can restrict it so in my case a decent size van to work from is defo no brainer. Having lack of space and also needing to tow a trailer is also more hassle than it's worth if you ask me.

hank jr

  • Posts: 314
Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2017, 01:02:55 pm »
I like the pickups but I'm a pain in the arse and tend to change things about often.
https://goo.gl/photos/3Nuz38HocyK6x1638
This pic I've got a Wydale 350l upright for softwash, Facelift 325 compact and at the tailgate I've got my trad gear and softwash pump box.
https://goo.gl/photos/zNzUXb4DXPr69vg47
Couple of big ladders on top and on the trailer there's another tank, pw, tarps, cones etc. Another day it'll be gutter vac, genny etc on the trailer or ditch the big tank and use the 350l for the pw, backpack for softwash and I can fit the genny and vac on the trailer.

That looks great ! I would like that kind of set up but have no were to store my truck with gear in the back over night.

hank jr

  • Posts: 314
Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2017, 01:10:46 pm »
I like the pickups but I'm a pain in the arse and tend to change things about often.
https://goo.gl/photos/3Nuz38HocyK6x1638
This pic I've got a Wydale 350l upright for softwash, Facelift 325 compact and at the tailgate I've got my trad gear and softwash pump box.
https://goo.gl/photos/zNzUXb4DXPr69vg47
Couple of big ladders on top and on the trailer there's another tank, pw, tarps, cones etc. Another day it'll be gutter vac, genny etc on the trailer or ditch the big tank and use the 350l for the pw, backpack for softwash and I can fit the genny and vac on the trailer.

Have you waterproofed the floor in the back of your pickup? Ive just been talking to a guy from a water tank supplier and he said to  put a waterproof protective coating down as the pure water eats away at the floor of a truck?

EandM

  • Posts: 2198
Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2017, 02:07:30 pm »
I like the pickups but I'm a pain in the arse and tend to change things about often.
https://goo.gl/photos/3Nuz38HocyK6x1638
This pic I've got a Wydale 350l upright for softwash, Facelift 325 compact and at the tailgate I've got my trad gear and softwash pump box.
https://goo.gl/photos/zNzUXb4DXPr69vg47
Couple of big ladders on top and on the trailer there's another tank, pw, tarps, cones etc. Another day it'll be gutter vac, genny etc on the trailer or ditch the big tank and use the 350l for the pw, backpack for softwash and I can fit the genny and vac on the trailer.

Have you waterproofed the floor in the back of your pickup? Ive just been talking to a guy from a water tank supplier and he said to  put a waterproof protective coating down as the pure water eats away at the floor of a truck?

No. Nor does it happen.
The whole point of a pick up truck is that the bed is designed to run wet. If you have a plastic load liner that ages it is possible for water to get trapped underneath and that can cause damage. If you pop the liner out periodically and check it's not an issue.

Some run without a liner and instead use a 2 pack epoxy bed liner. They are extremely tough and certainly resistant to water - pure or otherwise.

Plankton

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2017, 11:40:24 pm »
To me this waterproofing is a gimmick, never had an issue with a previous van and the tank was over filled many times by someone else. The pickups are open to the elements anyway so I would laugh in the face of a salesman if they tried to sell me any waterproofing with the vehicle.  The bed liner is designed to let the water out from underneath. 
You will be restricted (depending on equipment required) if your driving license doesn't have the correct category for towing.

Van v pickup v whatever else is like a post I read on a local facebook page asking "what is the best Chinese takeaway" Over 100 fierce replies defending there local takeaway and criticising others... 


robbo333

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Re: Van or Truck? Im a family man so i got to think of the kids too....
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2017, 04:42:23 pm »
I've had 3 pickups including a Toyota Hilux Intimidator (Japanese import) and it was the muts nuts. Seriously good. I wasn't window cleaning at the time though. It all depends on your circumstances. If you really can't be bothered to run two vehicles and you can make your own water, and have a really compact round, then I would go for it. You could always come home and refill.
I have to buy my water, 30 mins there and back. I am upsizing from a 350 litre ford connect to whatever I can use to hold 650, but that is my personal preference. It really does depend on how you work, whether you make your own water, what extra services you provide (so more gear in the van) etc, etc. If you're just house bashing, and it's all local, then the best vehicle I've ever owned (and i'm 52 and owned lots) is the Toyota Hilux.
PS They are a bit bouncy with an empty load.
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