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garyj

Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2006, 10:27:28 am »
A quick search of the Patents Office reveals over 100 company's that have patents on papaya.

We have been told over and over that there is a world wide patent on this product, what is the number because I can't find it.

John Kelly

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Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2006, 11:22:00 am »
Allerg stop does have a world wide patent on its specific formula. You can see it here http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO2004019685&F=0&QPN=DE10104479&RPN=DE10104479&OREQ=0&


*paul_moss

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Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2006, 11:56:46 am »
Well found John.
This is what Allerstop is made up of.

Rezeptur  = Composition

Wasser: 1%-85% = water

Auxillase: 0,1%-10%

Anionische Tenside: 3%-15% =anionic compound( micro splitter)

Duftstoffe: 0,1%-3% = perfume / scent

Konservierungsmittel: 0,5 = preservative

Thats if my German is ok
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
REMOVED FOR POSTING OFFENSIVE MATERIAL

stevegunn

Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2006, 04:35:38 pm »
That is a grey area at present you can advertise allerg-stop, just not use the logo or the pics as my understanding of it you would also need to purchase the product from your nearest network member.Holmans cleaning are not members but advertise allerg-stop.

http://www.holmanscleaning.co.uk/index.php?f=data_home&a=4

stevegunn

Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2006, 07:00:44 pm »
translation

Recipe = Composition

Water: 1 %-85 % = water

Auxillase: 0.1 %-10 %

Anion broad Tenside: 3 %-15 % =anionic compound (micro splitter)

Odoriferous substances: 0.1 %-3 % = perfume / scent

Preservative: 0.5 = preservative

stevegunn

Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2006, 07:48:35 pm »
Allergstop is a patented as is the logo and trademark if used without permission legal action will be taken

HolmansUKLTD

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Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2006, 08:38:18 pm »
Ive had about 6 visitors to my website!! Now thanks to steve that will now double ;D

I have changed the wording now as someone had a bee in their bonnett about it ::)

Have a look Steve ;)
Surreys No1 Carpet & Upholstery cleaner
Surreys No1 Dart player
IICRC water restoration Technician

stevegunn

Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2006, 09:32:33 pm »
Nick sorry you had to change it if it was because of me.But my beef was I had paid £800 to join the network yet a non network member was using exactly the same as we were.Still nothing lost because when you google allergstop you still appear on page 4 at the top of the page. 8)

HolmansUKLTD

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Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2006, 08:29:45 am »
Page 4!!!!

Whos gonna look down that far ;D

I do understand Steve but i have never had a call for allergy cleaning just 1 regular client who had a reaction to a new carpet

I think a lot of the allergstop members thought they would make bundles in the first year or two with all the advertising but it will take time. Stick with it anyway it cant be long before allergy cleaning is a must.

Regards

Nick
Surreys No1 Carpet & Upholstery cleaner
Surreys No1 Dart player
IICRC water restoration Technician

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2006, 08:49:29 am »
Someone said to me the other day,


If you have an Allergy you will go to a Doctor.  Why would you believe the claims of a Carpet Cleaner.   Why not start selling Natural Therapies.




Perhaps carpet cleaners are in danger of becoming The Medicine Men of The West.


We have been lead down this road by one or two companies looking for a USP for their products

Then we all think we should become Allergy Experts


Fulled by Forums such as this , and posts on the subject.


HolmansUKLTD

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Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2006, 01:45:58 pm »
That's pretty apt coming from "The Carpet Medic" ;)
Surreys No1 Carpet & Upholstery cleaner
Surreys No1 Dart player
IICRC water restoration Technician

stains-away

Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2006, 03:07:52 pm »
Its not a case of becoming an allergy "expert", people are more aware now than they ever have been about what shares their environment, if a customer phones up asking about anti allergen treatments then surely if the person answering the phone can show that they have a bit of knowledge in the field they are more likely to sell, if that means reading up on the subject and finding out what products are available then that's the way to go, if ten years ago somebody had said that a lot of small businesses would have websites promoting their goods or services they probably would have been laughed at, make the same statement today and the majority of people will reply that they have looked online for services or goods at some point, 400 years ago the world was thought to be  flat, now its round, with progress peoples perceptions change, yesterdays big news is now history or out dated, if you jump onto a bandwagon as its becoming fashionable then you can ride it out until its time to get off and look for the next  fad, Andy

craigp

Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2006, 03:50:12 pm »
***if a customer phones up asking about anti allergen treatments then surely if the person answering the phone can show that they have a bit of knowledge in the field they are more likely to sell,***

when was the last time a customer phoned you and asked that! 
dont know about any one else but for me its never.

so, i for one will think twice before sallowing a book on allergies.

i agree with ian, whos going to go to a carpet cleaner for health advice, and who are we to give it.

Im not conviced there is an allergy market at all, but i would be interested in other peoples opinion :)

HolmansUKLTD

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Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2006, 04:11:13 pm »
When i worked at prochem people did ring up about dust mites ( this was 15yrs ago) we stated that Clensan creates an enviorment that they dont like so will not breed but it diddnt kill them.

Nick
Surreys No1 Carpet & Upholstery cleaner
Surreys No1 Dart player
IICRC water restoration Technician

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Allerg Stop advertising
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2006, 05:27:21 pm »
As I said someone said it to me I just thought I would stir the pot