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Johnny B

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Re: Losing it
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2015, 09:57:51 am »
What you should be advising the trad cleaner to do is get off his ladder so he can earn more money and have a safer life,some seem to take pleasure in more or less telling him to carry on working hard for his crust and reminiscing about what it was like when they were a lad working there b******s off all day long. Ok it comes across as harsh but why are people still working from ladders,lightbulb moment here there is now an easier way to clean windows you don't need ladders anymore.

I take what you are saying, but although I am not anti-wfp, I have looked into it numerous times, and concluded that I would have to earn more than I do now just to pay for and maintain the system/bigger van etc. I earn enough to be content and don't want to change from the simplicity that tradding affords me now.

John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

NWH

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Re: Losing it
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2015, 11:06:53 am »
How much do you think it costs to run a system day to day I tell you how much,compared to the amount of more work you'll be doing it will be peanuts. You need to get out of your head you don't need an ionic system that when you open the back doors of the van it looks like Carl Cox should be there mixing on the decks lol,the main thing you need to worry about is getting your water whether it be you producing it or you buying it,you can buy it somewhere locally to you for about £20 a week on average or if you make it yourself after you've bought the stuff it literally works out at a few quid a week over the course of a year. After the initial outlay which is around 1500-2000 grand for half desent gear to get you started you'll be wishing you'd done it years ago.

Johnny B

  • Posts: 2385
Re: Losing it
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2015, 06:34:15 pm »
How much do you think it costs to run a system day to day I tell you how much,compared to the amount of more work you'll be doing it will be peanuts. You need to get out of your head you don't need an ionic system that when you open the back doors of the van it looks like Carl Cox should be there mixing on the decks lol,the main thing you need to worry about is getting your water whether it be you producing it or you buying it,you can buy it somewhere locally to you for about £20 a week on average or if you make it yourself after you've bought the stuff it literally works out at a few quid a week over the course of a year. After the initial outlay which is around 1500-2000 grand for half desent gear to get you started you'll be wishing you'd done it years ago.

Thanks for all the info. I am just too set in my ways though, and really happy with working the old school way!
 
Yes, I use ladders day in, day out, but would not climb them if I didn't feel safe, and never, ever abuse them or get complacent when using them. I am not looking to earn big bucks, so am not looking to change the way I do things if they are going to involve having to find more work to pay for the changes, and then be worried about things breaking. I'm getting too long in the tooth for that! I am not motivated by the financial rewards open to those who ditch the ladders for the pole system. I do a job that I love, and if I can make a reasonable living from it (which I do) then I am happy.

However, it seems that this thread has wandered off topic, as my original post was not about wfp v trad, but I posted my feelings that I was having about my beginning to doubt my ability to do the excellent job that my customers deserve. I've now managed (with some very helpful suggestions) to get back on track.

I doff my cap to you sir,
John
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.