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tlwcs

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Exceed flow valve
« on: December 01, 2015, 07:08:32 pm »
Can we have an update on delivery please Steve
Tony

Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2015, 07:24:43 pm »
Can we have an update on delivery please Steve
Tony
+1
I've not wanted to whinge, but I bought the hose and ejector sleeve weeks ago sure in the knowledge I'd be able to order the uni valve by now. I'm still having to use a tap on the end of my hose reel which kinda makes the tubeless concept pointless - I'm still having to reel off all the exceed hose to reach the tap before I start walking away from the van mounted reel which is beginning to get annoying.

tlwcs

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2015, 07:52:28 pm »
Can we have an update on delivery please Steve
Tony
+1
I've not wanted to whinge, but I bought the hose and ejector sleeve weeks ago sure in the knowledge I'd be able to order the uni valve by now. I'm still having to use a tap on the end of my hose reel which kinda makes the tubeless concept pointless - I'm still having to reel off all the exceed hose to reach the tap before I start walking away from the van mounted reel which is beginning to get annoying.

Pinch the blue hose, well fold it over on itself. I've had aqua taps, aqua adapter and a tap on my belt and pinching the hose takes a little getting used to, but works.
Tony

tonycarr

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2015, 07:59:48 pm »
website says coming soon

tony
T & J Window Cleaning services

steven jones

Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2015, 08:11:35 pm »
Sorry guy's but tool maker says he's behind, its irritating me to!

But he's assured me it wont be long now.

NWH

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2015, 09:51:27 pm »
What happens when you need to clean off the inserted hose when it gets covered in dirt-grit do you have take the pole apart coz it will still get dirty,might not get as dirty but it still will.

windowswashed

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2015, 10:02:28 pm »
There's a simpler way to make a pole hoseless along the lines of what exceed (I think) has done. It's so simple and uncomplicated, takes all of three seconds to convert poles, surprised no one has done it yet.  Not saying what it is just waiting to see how long it takes for someone's light bulb to come on and get the 'so simple' idea.  ;D

NWH

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2015, 10:22:27 pm »
The internal pole hose will still get dirty and feeling all the pole hose on the reel can more often than not be a right pain,when you reel out unless you reel out all the pole hose at the back of the van when you get to your furthest point where you start to clean you won't have enough pole hose to extend the pole. If I were going to reel all pole hose in on the reel I would have a valve to shut off the water so it doesn't come out with the syfining effect when it empties all the water out in the back that's in the hose.if I look at it and what it does I come to the conclusion that all it is doing is stopping you having to coil up the pole hose at the end of each job. If you use a variety of pole lengths from say a 40ft down to an18ft you wouldn't need all that pole hose. In no way am I meaning to put the product down I'm just saying what major benefit does it have other than being able to put you poles on the rack without them needing there own pole hose,I see it now has an ability to turn the water off at the base of the pole but I've never seen the need for this myself I just pinch the hose if I'm standing chatting etc.

JSMC

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2015, 11:13:24 pm »
There's a simpler way to make a pole hoseless along the lines of what exceed (I think) has done. It's so simple and uncomplicated, takes all of three seconds to convert poles, surprised no one has done it yet.  Not saying what it is just waiting to see how long it takes for someone's light bulb to come on and get the 'so simple' idea.  ;D

stick hose outside pole

rah

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2015, 05:38:56 am »
There's a simpler way to make a pole hoseless along the lines of what exceed (I think) has done. It's so simple and uncomplicated, takes all of three seconds to convert poles, surprised no one has done it yet.  Not saying what it is just waiting to see how long it takes for someone's light bulb to come on and get the 'so simple' idea.  ;D

Does your idea use this connector,

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/goosenecks-pole-fittings/super-lite-carbon-fibre-alloy-goosenecks-fittings/gooseneck-hose-assembly-push-fit-connector-and-8mm-pu-hose.html
Life used to be full of up's and downs....now i hardly ever get up a ladder :) .

tlwcs

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2015, 06:30:17 am »
The internal pole hose will still get dirty and feeling all the pole hose on the reel can more often than not be a right pain,when you reel out unless you reel out all the pole hose at the back of the van when you get to your furthest point where you start to clean you won't have enough pole hose to extend the pole. If I were going to reel all pole hose in on the reel I would have a valve to shut off the water so it doesn't come out with the syfining effect when it empties all the water out in the back that's in the hose.if I look at it and what it does I come to the conclusion that all it is doing is stopping you having to coil up the pole hose at the end of each job. If you use a variety of pole lengths from say a 40ft down to an18ft you wouldn't need all that pole hose. In no way am I meaning to put the product down I'm just saying what major benefit does it have other than being able to put you poles on the rack without them needing there own pole hose,I see it now has an ability to turn the water off at the base of the pole but I've never seen the need for this myself I just pinch the hose if I'm standing chatting etc.

Wtf?
None of those points are valid (from a user)
But then if that's what you think.
Tony

Lee GLS

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2015, 06:33:40 am »
The internal pole hose will not get dirty, and even if it did it wouldn't matter as it stays inside the same section and never moves.

Mike #1

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2015, 07:24:45 am »
There's a simpler way to make a pole hoseless along the lines of what exceed (I think) has done. It's so simple and uncomplicated, takes all of three seconds to convert poles, surprised no one has done it yet.  Not saying what it is just waiting to see how long it takes for someone's light bulb to come on and get the 'so simple' idea.  ;D

Did it 3 weeks ago never looked back .


I still use a tap but the trick not to turn tap on by accident when reeling in or out is to reel more hose on to on side of the reel so you have a deep gap on one side for pole hose and tap and the it doesn't catch on the road and empty water .

jk999

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2015, 09:15:31 am »
I know what your saying Mike it's not nice when you accidentally turn tap on and it soaks your back when getting out off van lol  ;D

NWH

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2015, 10:56:56 am »
If that's what I think ??,it's not a tubeless pole at all it just disconnects at the base allowing you to just reel the pole hose on to the reel. Ok some might like it but a flow valve from Gardiners does the exact same thing,if you use a flow valve switch it off to turn the water off simply reel all pole hose onto the reel there won't be any spilt water anywhere in the back of the van,simple to fit it takes seconds and there's less to go wrong IMO it can be used to turn water on and off as well going from window to window Alex has a video on his site.

NWH

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2015, 10:59:10 am »
You say none of my points in a previous post are valid from a users point of view lol,how long does it take to coil some hose up and change poles then lol.

tlwcs

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2015, 03:15:21 pm »
If that's what I think ??,it's not a tubeless pole at all it just disconnects at the base allowing you to just reel the pole hose on to the reel. Ok some might like it but a flow valve from Gardiners does the exact same thing,if you use a flow valve switch it off to turn the water off simply reel all pole hose onto the reel there won't be any spilt water anywhere in the back of the van,simple to fit it takes seconds and there's less to go wrong IMO it can be used to turn water on and off as well going from window to window Alex has a video on his site.

No worries, you can think what you like, it makes no difference to me.
Without you seeing the system its easy to make assumptions.
2 main benefits for me are I have only changed the rectus fitting once since January and there is no loop in the hose.
I have used a tap on my belt that created a loop and although Ive not used the Gardiner one, Im assuming to creates a loop?
Other benefits include it doesn't matter how many poles you carry, none of them need any pole hose.
The blue pole hose is the beat I've ever used to the point that I have 100m on my reel.
Its not perfect as the gooseneck can't be changed, but this doesn't affect brush changes.
If you found my earlier reply a bit harsh, then I apologize.
Tony   

NWH

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2015, 04:39:33 pm »
How much would 100 meters of hose cost me I've seen your video the hose I liked

tlwcs

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2015, 04:54:19 pm »
How much would 100 meters of hose cost me I've seen your video the hose I liked

Stalker lol.
Speak to Steve at exceed about £90
Tony

windowswashed

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Re: Exceed flow valve
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2015, 06:01:34 pm »
There's a simpler way to make a pole hoseless along the lines of what exceed (I think) has done. It's so simple and uncomplicated, takes all of three seconds to convert poles, surprised no one has done it yet.  Not saying what it is just waiting to see how long it takes for someone's light bulb to come on and get the 'so simple' idea.  ;D

Does your idea use this connector,

http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/all-products/water-fed-poles/goosenecks-pole-fittings/super-lite-carbon-fibre-alloy-goosenecks-fittings/gooseneck-hose-assembly-push-fit-connector-and-8mm-pu-hose.html

Yeah!! Easier to keep hose tidy if pushed for space when storing in van