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Leeds

  • Posts: 181
Bit of a pattern
« on: October 24, 2015, 11:52:20 am »
This had happened a few times when I've been collecting.  Typical convo goes like this...

Custy: don't want windows doing anymore

Me: why

Custy:  there was a mark left on one of the windows

Me: ok sorry about that. We'll comeback and fix it for free

Custy: no its fine, leave it.

Can't understand that.

Smurf

  • Posts: 8538
Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2015, 12:01:25 pm »
What method are you using wfp or trad ?
Also what's the age range of the people that have said this to you?


Johnny B

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Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2015, 12:21:59 pm »
I personally never ask why if a customer no longer wants me, because in my experience they will generally make an excuse rather than tell the truth, which is usually about their financial situation.

Rather I say that I am sorry to lose them and wish them well.  This can disarm them, and even cause them to do a U turn!

John 

 
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

Leeds

  • Posts: 181
Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2015, 12:29:35 pm »
Wfp,

Yeah I'm always pleasant Johnny, I'm just wondering if it's really me or just they have no cash.

I've had times when I've done a dodgy job, but they're always happy to let me fix it. So these sound like they wanna a reason to get rid rather than say they can't afford.

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2015, 12:43:22 pm »
In our experience anyone who refuses to let you reclean for free is just looking for a way to stop the service.

After all it's easier for them to blame you (the humble windy) than admit they are financially challenged.

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Smurf

  • Posts: 8538
Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2015, 12:46:57 pm »
You can usally tell when someone is telling porkies but you can also tell if someone is not happy with the service for whatever reason either. Very few will tell the true if they want to get shot of you for whatever the reason as most don't like confrontation.
Some will also put up with bad work just because they are frightened too.

At the end of the day you still want to know how you can offer a great service so some honest customer feedback goes a long way.


 



Smurf

  • Posts: 8538
Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2015, 12:50:15 pm »
Some old folk you just can't win...
Ethel says to Fanny oh that chap we have is not a proper window cleaner as he is splashing water everwhere and leaving my windows wet. Lets get rid and find ourselves a proper window cleaner. Ok when he turns up I will tell him not to bother comming again. Me too... ;D

I know this happens as some people don't like change and if not done right you have not a leg to stand on pontificating how well pure wfp window cleaning works if it turns out a poor job too. ::)roll

Wait until you win contracts on say block of flats with old folk in them and/or retirment homes then that can be fun for sure.
Just make sure you do a good job waving yer stick about  ;D

Leeds

  • Posts: 181
Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2015, 02:38:21 pm »
That's what I'm getting at.

I want to know weather I should give the lad who cleaned those windows an ear full for a poor job, or weather to understand that the customer has realised they don't quite have the luxury of affording a window cleaner.

DeLuce

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Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2015, 03:59:32 pm »
That's what I'm getting at.

I want to know weather I should give the lad who cleaned those windows an ear full for a poor job, or weather to understand that the customer has realised they don't quite have the luxury of affording a window cleaner.

It may also be the case that someone has undercut you but they don't want to say that. If they don't want it fixing for free then usually it's an excuse to bin you off  for one reason or another.

Spruce

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Re: Bit of a pattern New
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2015, 04:03:51 pm »
That's what I'm getting at.

I want to know weather I should give the lad who cleaned those windows an ear full for a poor job, or weather to understand that the customer has realised they don't quite have the luxury of affording a window cleaner.

I agree with all the views expressed by Johnny, Smudger and Crapinon.

In 10 years I have only ever had one customer I can honestly say told me the truth - I'm skint.

The rest make some really classic excuses and they generally imply that your shoddy workmanship is the reason why they are cancelling.  They feel that they have control of the situation by throwing that curved ball. This is the most common time when people feel that they don't want to spend money cleaning windows in winter. I now just thank them for their business and politely leave.

Like the others, I don't ask anymore.

I have had a few ask me back a few years later, but the shoe is then on my foot - if my workmanship wasn't right then, why should it be any better now?

If you have an employee then you should do periodic checks on his work to ensure that he is doing the job properly. Best done a few hours after he has been. If there are quality issues then you can correct that by retraining.

Others may not like your employee as they don't feel comfortable around him. maybe they caught him peering through the window, or paying too much attention to their smalls on the washing line, or a neighbour spotted him having a pee in their garden.
We had a few cancellations when son in law started working a section of our round. Some didn't like is non communicative attitude. He hardly says a word to anyone. Hello, does the job, knocks for money and goes. We visited one who had cancelled and the main excuse was that he was too quick where I was much slower. I must have been doing the job properly and he couldn't have been.
On inspection I found no issue and we retained her, but had she not phoned she would have told him that her son in law was now going to do them.

We had a job about 10 years ago when husband and wife were together. They have divorced since then and Mrs asked us to clean the windows of her new house. When he found out we were cleaning them, he fired us as he didn't want us reporting back to his ex wife. His excuse was that we left a streak on the front window the clean before which he had paid for a few days after we did the clean. No quality issues were raised then.

Just don't take it personally.

Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Spruce

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Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2015, 04:07:31 pm »
That's what I'm getting at.

I want to know weather I should give the lad who cleaned those windows an ear full for a poor job, or weather to understand that the customer has realised they don't quite have the luxury of affording a window cleaner.

It may also be the case that someone has undercut you but they don't want to say that. If they don't want it fixing for free then usually it's an excuse to bin you off  for one reason or another.

Also true.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

8weekly

Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2015, 04:21:51 pm »
I had one this week cancel because the system doesn't suit them because it damages their plants. We knocked a few petals off some annuals. Ridiculous. Especially as they have windows above a pitched roof.

Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2015, 04:50:53 pm »
I did a 1st clean - totally underpriced it , £8 . anyway no issues, paid me then nxt month I txt the night b4 and she txt back saying sorry but iv got someone cheaper - your prices are just to steep! I used to get my old house done and conservatory for £6 !!
I just txt back saying 'lol'
I think she wanted a one off the sneaky £&@&£!!!

DaveG

  • Posts: 6348
Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2015, 05:15:45 pm »
That's what I'm getting at.

I want to know weather I should give the lad who cleaned those windows an ear full for a poor job, or weather to understand that the customer has realised they don't quite have the luxury of affording a window cleaner.






Others may not like your employee as they don't feel comfortable around him. maybe they caught him peering through the window, or paying too much attention to their smalls on the washing line, or a neighbour spotted him having a pee in their garden.




Reminds me of the time a sexy customer accused me of stealing washing off her line....

I nearly sh!t her knickers!
You can't polish a turd

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2015, 05:28:53 pm »
Spruce, as always your on the money.

When I started moving away from the Reg. Cleans we had a few people saying that the lad was too quick, didn't do this or that, simply when checking none of it was true, sometimes it's just a change of face and definitely for some getting the 'lad' instead of the 'boss'

Other than pressure washing or one off work, customers only see me when quoting, and not always then, the guys do that as well 😃 - it's now taken as read they may get different cleaners, although some rounds are done month in month out by the same person and if they are on hols the odd customer may ring in requesting the regular guy 😉

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

supernova77

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Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2015, 06:13:34 pm »
I did a 1st clean - totally underpriced it , £8 . anyway no issues, paid me then nxt month I txt the night b4 and she txt back saying sorry but iv got someone cheaper - your prices are just to steep! I used to get my old house done and conservatory for £6 !!
I just txt back saying 'lol'
I think she wanted a one off the sneaky £&@&£!!!

£8 ???

You need to put your prices up!!

KS Cleaning

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Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2015, 06:49:07 pm »
That's what I'm getting at.

I want to know weather I should give the lad who cleaned those windows an ear full for a poor job, or weather to understand that the customer has realised they don't quite have the luxury of affording a window cleaner.






Others may not like your employee as they don't feel comfortable around him. maybe they caught him peering through the window, or paying too much attention to their smalls on the washing line, or a neighbour spotted him having a pee in their garden.




Reminds me of the time a sexy customer accused me of stealing washing off her line....

I nearly sh!t her knickers!
;D

Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2015, 07:26:58 pm »
I did a 1st clean - totally underpriced it , £8 . anyway no issues, paid me then nxt month I txt the night b4 and she txt back saying sorry but iv got someone cheaper - your prices are just to steep! I used to get my old house done and conservatory for £6 !!
I just txt back saying 'lol'
I think she wanted a one off the sneaky £&@&£!!!

£8 ???

You need to put your prices up!!

Lol was only a small house but I think a lot of things are a lot cheaper here up north  ;D

Leeds

  • Posts: 181
Re: Bit of a pattern
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2015, 12:23:40 am »
That says it all.

The man signed up for cleaning. And when I went to collect the wife came, and said all that spiel at the top. Sounds like she didn't want to pay that much, oh well!